Message from @ManAnimal

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2019-09-28 03:59:15 UTC  

Pls concrete

2019-09-28 03:59:17 UTC  

you lack 3 dimensional thinking

2019-09-28 03:59:31 UTC  

No I understand words

2019-09-28 04:00:12 UTC  

set expression looks at the answer as a function of what it is not

2019-09-28 04:00:13 UTC  

"There is no difference"
"One is one thing, the other is another thing"
"No difference"

2019-09-28 04:00:35 UTC  

discrete expression looks at the answer as a function of what it IS

2019-09-28 04:01:45 UTC  

basic numerical theory; i.e. all matter in the universe is what was LEFT OVER when all the antimater gone

2019-09-28 04:02:41 UTC  

You understand only a SINGLEinterpretation of words

2019-09-28 04:02:43 UTC  

I don't think that's scientifically accurate

2019-09-28 04:02:55 UTC  

it's mathematically accurate

2019-09-28 04:03:15 UTC  

do you know what a mobieus is?

2019-09-28 04:03:57 UTC  

Alot of this depends on how you interpret the words you're using

2019-09-28 04:04:16 UTC  

And you can't suggest that you need to understand ALL meanings at once to understand it

2019-09-28 04:04:32 UTC  

because plenty of words have contradictory definitions

2019-09-28 04:04:40 UTC  

lol; few people understand 'all meanings'

2019-09-28 04:04:47 UTC  

<:pepelaugh:544857300179877898> <:pepegun:588019479401726001>

2019-09-28 04:04:56 UTC  

and defintions are NOT interpretations

2019-09-28 04:05:43 UTC  

You build an interpretation off the definitions

2019-09-28 04:06:11 UTC  

there is too much reliance today on external vocabularies which aren't enough to provide total coverage of all concepts being discuss between two parties

2019-09-28 04:06:55 UTC  

Then throughly explain the concepts

2019-09-28 04:06:57 UTC  

all that matters is consistency of a label within an exchange

2019-09-28 04:06:59 UTC  

in your own words

2019-09-28 04:07:07 UTC  

if someone has an issue

2019-09-28 04:07:16 UTC  

i agree completely

2019-09-28 04:09:08 UTC  

negotiation of vocablulary between two people is far more important than using a proper definition. proper defintions will never be accurate enough to account for the subtle differences in the way each person conceptualizes a thing

2019-09-28 04:12:42 UTC  

In my view, "correctness" is an analog comparison of two variables. Something can be alittle correct and somthing else alittle more correct. But 'right/wrong' are discrete comparisons.

2019-09-28 04:14:01 UTC  

Also, an academic builds an interpretation off of definitions. The rest build interpretaions off of expereience and perception.

2019-09-28 04:15:22 UTC  

An interpretation of an ACTUAL thing made with one's senses is always more complete that an interpretation of someone else's account who developed the definition

2019-09-28 04:16:43 UTC  

When I said they build an interpretation of definitions I meant that you perceive the words as ideas, AKA their definition and build an interpretation off of that, the ideas you project onto the words are based off experience and perception

2019-09-28 04:17:00 UTC  

I just simplified it for the sake of brevity

2019-09-28 04:17:04 UTC  

Holy shit are we having an actual argument about semantics

2019-09-28 04:17:14 UTC  

maybe for the zoomers, this is so

2019-09-28 04:17:40 UTC  

Well I'm defending my intellect because Manimal means to demean me for failing a semantic argument @UnfilteredGarbage

2019-09-28 04:18:33 UTC  

but traditionally, you learn to identify those things you observe from each other FIRST assigning arbitrary labels THEN those labels are standardized into proper definitions

2019-09-28 04:18:43 UTC  

definitions are external

2019-09-28 04:18:52 UTC  

identities are intrinsic

2019-09-28 04:19:47 UTC  

To words

2019-09-28 04:19:49 UTC  

yes

2019-09-28 04:19:52 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613767975614283832/627358788231364608/image0.jpg

2019-09-28 04:20:11 UTC  

but the concept in your mind always varies somewhat from the label it is given. sometimes your concept has more detail than the proper definiton. sometimes less

2019-09-28 04:20:30 UTC  

Sometimes the label is just a label