Message from @ManAnimal
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Pls concrete
you lack 3 dimensional thinking
No I understand words
set expression looks at the answer as a function of what it is not
"There is no difference"
"One is one thing, the other is another thing"
"No difference"
discrete expression looks at the answer as a function of what it IS
basic numerical theory; i.e. all matter in the universe is what was LEFT OVER when all the antimater gone
You understand only a SINGLEinterpretation of words
I don't think that's scientifically accurate
it's mathematically accurate
do you know what a mobieus is?
Alot of this depends on how you interpret the words you're using
And you can't suggest that you need to understand ALL meanings at once to understand it
because plenty of words have contradictory definitions
lol; few people understand 'all meanings'
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and defintions are NOT interpretations
You build an interpretation off the definitions
there is too much reliance today on external vocabularies which aren't enough to provide total coverage of all concepts being discuss between two parties
Then throughly explain the concepts
in your own words
if someone has an issue
i agree completely
negotiation of vocablulary between two people is far more important than using a proper definition. proper defintions will never be accurate enough to account for the subtle differences in the way each person conceptualizes a thing
In my view, "correctness" is an analog comparison of two variables. Something can be alittle correct and somthing else alittle more correct. But 'right/wrong' are discrete comparisons.
Also, an academic builds an interpretation off of definitions. The rest build interpretaions off of expereience and perception.
An interpretation of an ACTUAL thing made with one's senses is always more complete that an interpretation of someone else's account who developed the definition
When I said they build an interpretation of definitions I meant that you perceive the words as ideas, AKA their definition and build an interpretation off of that, the ideas you project onto the words are based off experience and perception
I just simplified it for the sake of brevity
Holy shit are we having an actual argument about semantics
maybe for the zoomers, this is so
Well I'm defending my intellect because Manimal means to demean me for failing a semantic argument @UnfilteredGarbage
but traditionally, you learn to identify those things you observe from each other FIRST assigning arbitrary labels THEN those labels are standardized into proper definitions
definitions are external
identities are intrinsic
To words
yes
but the concept in your mind always varies somewhat from the label it is given. sometimes your concept has more detail than the proper definiton. sometimes less
Sometimes the label is just a label