Message from @Grok

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2019-09-28 04:18:43 UTC  

definitions are external

2019-09-28 04:18:52 UTC  

identities are intrinsic

2019-09-28 04:19:47 UTC  

To words

2019-09-28 04:19:49 UTC  

yes

2019-09-28 04:19:52 UTC  

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2019-09-28 04:20:11 UTC  

but the concept in your mind always varies somewhat from the label it is given. sometimes your concept has more detail than the proper definiton. sometimes less

2019-09-28 04:20:30 UTC  

Sometimes the label is just a label

2019-09-28 04:20:34 UTC  

id def muck some

2019-09-28 04:20:39 UTC  

yup. very true

2019-09-28 04:21:26 UTC  

Sometimes the label is a mislabel because circumstance rather than the regular.

2019-09-28 04:21:44 UTC  

sometimes the label is applied by a retard

2019-09-28 04:21:56 UTC  

and sometimes retard is a label

2019-09-28 04:22:03 UTC  

i think we both agree that Scale, for example, puts more emphasis on proper definitions than on the concepts being identified. thus the insistance that it is ALWAYS worth declaring something 'legal' or not even though there really is no reason

2019-09-28 04:22:07 UTC  

or a mislabel

2019-09-28 04:22:17 UTC  

Or an Ironic label

2019-09-28 04:22:25 UTC  

which would be an intentional mislabel

2019-09-28 04:22:50 UTC  

I think Scale is a mislabel

2019-09-28 04:23:20 UTC  

Turns out the entire label factory is ran by <:Tzeench:494567616372015114> .

2019-09-28 04:23:41 UTC  

in my view, getting the idea across and being understood as well as understanding the other person is MORE important than utilizing the proper label or term which may or may not be known by both parties

2019-09-28 04:23:42 UTC  

Sseth Tzeench?

2019-09-28 04:23:53 UTC  

<:sseth:600568879743500288>

2019-09-28 04:24:54 UTC  

Semantics are important

2019-09-28 04:25:08 UTC  

without meaning, all you have is syntax

2019-09-28 04:25:30 UTC  

syntax really is only important to autists

2019-09-28 04:25:53 UTC  

Unless it's really bad

2019-09-28 04:27:11 UTC  

academics are alot like post-modernists in that they insist on using external vocabularies even if they are overly complicated and not known by all parties. this is counter-productive and typically a way of just making themselves feel superior as the other doesn't know what they deem the proper term

2019-09-28 04:27:46 UTC  

#notall STEM fields do the exact opposite

2019-09-28 04:28:14 UTC  

Post-postmodernism

2019-09-28 04:28:40 UTC  

"A rose by any other name still smells as sweet.... but good luck finding one for your sweetheart if you don't know the name people in her village refer to it by"

2019-09-28 04:28:43 UTC  

Post moderntism

2019-09-28 04:29:33 UTC  

defintions matter; but they shouldn't be used as a straight-jacket

2019-09-28 04:30:10 UTC  

STEM is different. It's MEANT to be concise

2019-09-28 04:30:55 UTC  

Embalming fluid.

2019-09-28 04:31:33 UTC  

But the human brain is FAR better at dealing with analog associations like social relationships than it is discrete relationships

2019-09-28 04:31:41 UTC  

@ManAnimal All intellectualism is mean to be concise, or else it is literally a waste of space

2019-09-28 04:32:33 UTC  

true, but 'concise' usually infers that one has the broader scope/understanding as well

2019-09-28 04:32:43 UTC  

Nah

2019-09-28 04:32:50 UTC  

Logic is a tool of the mind

2019-09-28 04:32:58 UTC  

Not its primary mode of operation

2019-09-28 04:33:14 UTC  

Also