Message from @Scale_e

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2019-09-28 04:50:38 UTC  

add No. 8 : Any conflict shall be decided utilizing public debate and public cage-match

2019-09-28 04:50:40 UTC  

A = Ban leftism in school
B = Free speech and choose your own subjects

A blatantly conflicts with B on a fundamental level.

2019-09-28 04:50:59 UTC  

You can’t have A *and* B

2019-09-28 04:51:13 UTC  

@Scale_e Not if you take into account No. 3

2019-09-28 04:51:32 UTC  

“Remove all the leftism” is a value

2019-09-28 04:51:51 UTC  

And you make a strong case that leftists would inject values into the skills being taught

2019-09-28 04:52:05 UTC  

Oh they absolutely would

2019-09-28 04:52:19 UTC  

Teachers would HAVE to be neutral and if you can make the argument that leftists are NOT neutral

2019-09-28 04:52:30 UTC  

then you remove the conflict comepletely

2019-09-28 04:52:33 UTC  

well, alter No. 8 to 'include teachers as well'

2019-09-28 04:52:37 UTC  

I hate the leftist educators as much as the next guy with a functioning brain

2019-09-28 04:52:44 UTC  

I meant teachers should be neutral not that leftist ideas should be banned

2019-09-28 04:52:48 UTC  

You can’t have neutral teachers

2019-09-28 04:52:56 UTC  

why not?

2019-09-28 04:52:58 UTC  

It’s like asking for neutral news production

2019-09-28 04:53:04 UTC  

People inject bias

2019-09-28 04:53:08 UTC  

Inevitably

2019-09-28 04:53:14 UTC  

it can be mitigated

2019-09-28 04:53:18 UTC  

So all of science is untrustworthy?

2019-09-28 04:53:18 UTC  

True

2019-09-28 04:53:27 UTC  

But not completely squashed

2019-09-28 04:53:28 UTC  

Just because it has some bias?

2019-09-28 04:53:37 UTC  

such logic would be like saying 'becuase all people can be corrupted, why have gov?"

2019-09-28 04:53:46 UTC  

^

2019-09-28 04:53:51 UTC  

It’s still useful, you just have to acknowledge that the bias is inevitable

2019-09-28 04:53:59 UTC  

yeah but

2019-09-28 04:54:08 UTC  

Leftists bias is too strong

2019-09-28 04:54:14 UTC  

nothing is perfect

2019-09-28 04:54:24 UTC  

So, if bias is inevitable, you need to ensure it’s *your* ideology that’s being indoctrinated to the kids.

2019-09-28 04:54:39 UTC  

should have to pass an emotional control test to be a teacher

2019-09-28 04:54:48 UTC  

Schools should operate on a platform of DEMOCRATIC NATIONALISM!

2019-09-28 04:54:49 UTC  

fuck it this has gone too far

2019-09-28 04:54:52 UTC  

I'm done

2019-09-28 04:54:59 UTC  

I love niggers

2019-09-28 04:55:12 UTC  
2019-09-28 04:55:34 UTC  

*ALTERNATIVE REFORM PROPOSAL*
*1. Restrict university debt milling by instituting a maximum course load/degree. No more taking 20 elective classes for 1 course of study
2. Eliminate Affirmative Action in admissions and testing practices
3. Remove federal/state funding from colleges unless their alumni have a given successful employment rate in their fields of study
4. Remove federal/state funding from colleges found to be hosting courses that are antithetical to American social/cultural unity, or at least defund those courses
5. Initiate an investigation into political bias in hiring/tenuring practices in post-secondary education*

2019-09-28 04:56:13 UTC  

ok here is something that will set the chat on fire, is it me or is Dissenter fast becoming an echo chamber? because often all i see are different ways of saying "fuck the left" "civil war now" and "<insert women/minority here> should not have the right to vote", unless i'm looking the wrong way i really don't see many actual comment debates on Dissenter between the both sides and with each passing day it looks more and more like the echo chamber's we see in tumblr except its a right wing one

(btw please prove me wrong)

2019-09-28 04:56:18 UTC  

I’ve already partially written a manifesto (non pew pew) that covers education.
I could ctrl c ctrl v.

2019-09-28 04:56:37 UTC  

schools should be Apolitical.

2019-09-28 04:56:41 UTC  

period

2019-09-28 04:56:43 UTC  

Impossible