Message from @Win Roe

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2019-09-28 04:46:43 UTC  

XD

2019-09-28 04:47:26 UTC  

*REFORM PUBLIC EDUCATION*
***1. School must be non-complusitory (as in it shouldn't be illegal to not go to school)
2. Homework should be abolish or at the very least reduced by over 50%
3. Schools should only teach people skills not values
4. No student should be forced to take any paticular course not even math, english, science, or social studies
5. Free speech should be protected
6. All SJW/Marxist/Postmodernist/Radical Leftist Propaganda & Infestation should purged out of the education espeacially in the humanities and social sciences including women studies, gender studies, black studies, lgbt studies, minority studies, addfirmative action, quotas, teaching kids that offending people is horrible, teachers teaching kids to be activists and join protests, etc...
7. College and University should be Tution-Free***

2019-09-28 04:48:03 UTC  

Strike No. 4

2019-09-28 04:48:31 UTC  

@Warlord Dick Cheney at this point public education would be meaningless
Abolish the university debt mill and institute a tax-voucher system to make public schooling competitive
Barring this, abolish public education entirely

2019-09-28 04:48:34 UTC  

@Warlord Dick Cheney Is this the green new deal way to solve education?

2019-09-28 04:48:37 UTC  

And No. 7: Statistics should ONLY be taught in graduate school

2019-09-28 04:48:59 UTC  

You can’t remove all the leftist stuff and then say “But hey, free speech. And choose whatever subjects you want.”
It’s blatant hypocrisy.

2019-09-28 04:49:03 UTC  

@Win Roe no, because those reforms would kill the Teachers' Union

2019-09-28 04:49:32 UTC  

@Scale_e education isn't a speech issue. Teachers have an obligation to their students, they're not free agents

2019-09-28 04:49:41 UTC  

I know that

2019-09-28 04:49:45 UTC  

Teachers in government-subsidized schools, at least

2019-09-28 04:49:52 UTC  

battle of the tards

2019-09-28 04:50:38 UTC  

add No. 8 : Any conflict shall be decided utilizing public debate and public cage-match

2019-09-28 04:50:40 UTC  

A = Ban leftism in school
B = Free speech and choose your own subjects

A blatantly conflicts with B on a fundamental level.

2019-09-28 04:50:59 UTC  

You can’t have A *and* B

2019-09-28 04:51:13 UTC  

@Scale_e Not if you take into account No. 3

2019-09-28 04:51:32 UTC  

“Remove all the leftism” is a value

2019-09-28 04:51:51 UTC  

And you make a strong case that leftists would inject values into the skills being taught

2019-09-28 04:52:05 UTC  

Oh they absolutely would

2019-09-28 04:52:19 UTC  

Teachers would HAVE to be neutral and if you can make the argument that leftists are NOT neutral

2019-09-28 04:52:30 UTC  

then you remove the conflict comepletely

2019-09-28 04:52:33 UTC  

well, alter No. 8 to 'include teachers as well'

2019-09-28 04:52:37 UTC  

I hate the leftist educators as much as the next guy with a functioning brain

2019-09-28 04:52:44 UTC  

I meant teachers should be neutral not that leftist ideas should be banned

2019-09-28 04:52:48 UTC  

You can’t have neutral teachers

2019-09-28 04:52:56 UTC  

why not?

2019-09-28 04:52:58 UTC  

It’s like asking for neutral news production

2019-09-28 04:53:04 UTC  

People inject bias

2019-09-28 04:53:08 UTC  

Inevitably

2019-09-28 04:53:14 UTC  

it can be mitigated

2019-09-28 04:53:18 UTC  

So all of science is untrustworthy?

2019-09-28 04:53:18 UTC  

True

2019-09-28 04:53:27 UTC  

But not completely squashed

2019-09-28 04:53:28 UTC  

Just because it has some bias?

2019-09-28 04:53:37 UTC  

such logic would be like saying 'becuase all people can be corrupted, why have gov?"

2019-09-28 04:53:46 UTC  

^

2019-09-28 04:53:51 UTC  

It’s still useful, you just have to acknowledge that the bias is inevitable

2019-09-28 04:53:59 UTC  

yeah but

2019-09-28 04:54:08 UTC  

Leftists bias is too strong

2019-09-28 04:54:14 UTC  

nothing is perfect