Message from @Kinky Kitsune (Coomer)

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2019-09-13 23:48:31 UTC  

EVERYTHING

2019-09-13 23:49:39 UTC  

So you think we're in a state of permanent revolution?

2019-09-13 23:49:51 UTC  

You should really see how cool Peter Hitchens remains whilst delivering this information to us, FROM HIS PERSONAL EXPERIENCE AS A TROT!

2019-09-13 23:50:03 UTC  
2019-09-13 23:50:35 UTC  

Man the current working class probably doesn't even know what communism is on the whole, let alone is it familiar enough with it as a concept to organise together to overflow capitalism as some sort of global effort to replace it with communism

2019-09-13 23:51:02 UTC  

It isn’t WORKING CLASS anymore

2019-09-13 23:51:14 UTC  

It’s in the INSTITUTIONS

2019-09-13 23:51:22 UTC  

Nope

2019-09-13 23:51:33 UTC  

Peter Hitchens in this case

2019-09-13 23:52:17 UTC  

He since reformed into the more conservative of the warring two Hitchens siblings

2019-09-13 23:52:21 UTC  

I assume they both had similar experience

2019-09-13 23:53:32 UTC  

That's not what Trotskyism is though it's not about institutions it's about the working class

2019-09-13 23:53:39 UTC  

Christopher became more enamoured of progression through the physicalist scientific paradigm, whilst his younger brother Peter turned to Christianity

2019-09-13 23:53:44 UTC  

Trotskyism is all about mass action by the working class

2019-09-13 23:54:43 UTC  

If you follow the account of Peter Hitchens, it became about a change in the focus from proletariat to infiltrating the institutions

2019-09-13 23:54:57 UTC  

You can throw these words in capital letters all you want but there seems to be little to no supporting evidence for what you're saying

2019-09-13 23:55:26 UTC  

Then that's not Trotskyism that's just changing public opinion

2019-09-13 23:55:43 UTC  

Which happens a heck of a lot

2019-09-13 23:55:53 UTC  

Don’t worry I’ve finished, it’s up to you if you want to “pick up the thread” 👍

2019-09-13 23:56:04 UTC  

1950s: smoking good
2000s: smoking bad

2019-09-13 23:56:39 UTC  

lmao you smoke I just eat the cigarette

2019-09-13 23:57:15 UTC  

Man honestly I'm still trying to follow your thread from Tesla -> cultural Marxism -> Trotskyist permanent revolution

2019-09-13 23:57:23 UTC  

1920: Freud’s nephew exploits his uncle’s groundbreaking Psychological theories into manipulating the popularity of smoking amongst women 😉

2019-09-13 23:57:56 UTC  

Or, you know, advertising in action...?

2019-09-13 23:57:59 UTC  

Don’t worry @elliottbw its a long and twisted thread 😅

2019-09-13 23:58:10 UTC  

Advertising is predicated on human psychology

2019-09-13 23:59:16 UTC  

Freud’s nephew created modern consumerist advertising based on his uncle’s principles, after he came out of the US propaganda “information ministry” after WW1

2019-09-14 00:00:32 UTC  

Freud’s theories were also co-opted by the Bloomsbury Group who are chock full of Trots

2019-09-14 00:01:27 UTC  

Bloomsbury Group are basically responsible for transplanting Psychological manipulation techniques into social policy...

2019-09-14 00:01:49 UTC  

Psychological manipulation techniques in social policy? Where?

2019-09-14 00:01:50 UTC  

It crosses over with the Tavistock Centre in London

2019-09-14 00:02:05 UTC  

In CULTURE

2019-09-14 00:02:47 UTC  

and social/political/psycho-healthcare/education

2019-09-14 00:02:48 UTC  

Social policy in culture? Those are two *distinct* things

2019-09-14 00:02:53 UTC  

Sure, they can impact one another

2019-09-14 00:03:04 UTC  

Crossover is key

2019-09-14 00:03:06 UTC  

But a culture does not have social policy

2019-09-14 00:03:15 UTC  

Look what Freud’s nephew did 😉

2019-09-14 00:03:38 UTC  

Yes it does if you have the long march through the institutions

2019-09-14 00:03:51 UTC  

I am enjoying watching this trainwreck of a conversation unfold

2019-09-14 00:03:53 UTC  

keep going