Message from @Elia

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2019-09-14 00:01:50 UTC  

It crosses over with the Tavistock Centre in London

2019-09-14 00:02:05 UTC  

In CULTURE

2019-09-14 00:02:47 UTC  

and social/political/psycho-healthcare/education

2019-09-14 00:02:48 UTC  

Social policy in culture? Those are two *distinct* things

2019-09-14 00:02:53 UTC  

Sure, they can impact one another

2019-09-14 00:03:04 UTC  

Crossover is key

2019-09-14 00:03:06 UTC  

But a culture does not have social policy

2019-09-14 00:03:15 UTC  

Look what Freud’s nephew did 😉

2019-09-14 00:03:38 UTC  

Yes it does if you have the long march through the institutions

2019-09-14 00:03:51 UTC  

I am enjoying watching this trainwreck of a conversation unfold

2019-09-14 00:03:53 UTC  

keep going

2019-09-14 00:04:01 UTC  

It’s nearly there

2019-09-14 00:04:31 UTC  

what is social policy?

2019-09-14 00:04:44 UTC  

ONWARD AND UPWARD WE GOOOOOOO!

2019-09-14 00:05:21 UTC  

Immigration/education/healthcare

2019-09-14 00:05:39 UTC  

But it basically crosses over throughout

2019-09-14 00:05:39 UTC  

aren't they political policies?

2019-09-14 00:05:57 UTC  

or governmental or something

2019-09-14 00:06:02 UTC  

Since WW2 we have social welfare

2019-09-14 00:06:13 UTC  

social welfare policy then

2019-09-14 00:06:27 UTC  

Social engineering, if you like

2019-09-14 00:06:47 UTC  

social welfare and social engineering are fairly far removed from each other.

2019-09-14 00:06:54 UTC  

Nope

2019-09-14 00:07:08 UTC  

One and the same

2019-09-14 00:07:14 UTC  

I mean, yes. social engineering would be like pretending to be a doctor to get laid.

2019-09-14 00:07:23 UTC  

Lol

2019-09-14 00:07:33 UTC  

or befriending someone and asking them questions that reveal personal information for passwords and so forth

2019-09-14 00:07:38 UTC  

Sounds about right

2019-09-14 00:07:40 UTC  

Ok so it sounds like Edward Bernays (Freud's nephew) just learned how to advertise successfully

2019-09-14 00:07:49 UTC  

Yes

2019-09-14 00:08:04 UTC  

social welfare is just a political standpoint not really social engineering

2019-09-14 00:08:11 UTC  

It was a prototype experiment

2019-09-14 00:08:11 UTC  

I don't see how this relates to your long convoluted thread involving cultural Marxism and Nikola Tesla

2019-09-14 00:08:26 UTC  

It has been Co-opted

2019-09-14 00:08:38 UTC  

I'd hardly call it an experiment he just made people think stuff was fashionable, or healthy, or scary, even if it wasn't

2019-09-14 00:08:43 UTC  

That's just advertising

2019-09-14 00:08:44 UTC  

yea that's nothing to do with social welfare. social engineering is personal manipulation, it isn't about engineering society contrary to it's fairly misdirecting name.

2019-09-14 00:08:54 UTC  

Any relevant advances get Co-opted into the mission

2019-09-14 00:08:56 UTC  

It's perhaps immoral but it's fairly obvious

2019-09-14 00:09:13 UTC  

Call it what you will

2019-09-14 00:09:30 UTC  

advertising? influencing, things like that?