Considering feminism is, in fact, cancer......

Probably that.

What we see today isn't even feminism.

Feminism died after the first wave.

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Feminism was never a good ideology.

This includes the 'First Wave', which is actually the second wave.

What we're dealing with now are a bunch of identitarians, collectivists, who overwhelmingly subscribe to Communist idealism.

The second wave sucked

They supported abortion

Fair enough, Brokkr.

It never should've become an ideology.

Indeed, @SC01.

I support abortion; under the prerequisite medical circumstances. In a hospital. With a surgical team. With pre and post operation counseling.

Of course that's not politically popular for either side.

That's how it all began, however, and the boundaries continued to expand.

You give an inch, and a mile is thus taken, in the name of "progress."

In simplification, I support a medical toolbox whose sole purpose is to save as many lives as possible. Abortion, sadly, is one of those tools.

That's a utilitarian argument.

If you're consistent in that view, then you must accept abortion not legally feasible under a threat to life of the mother, should she be giving birth to more than one child.

Sargon is pro choice

That, he is.

jeremy u french right?

American.

My criterium are based on extenuating circumstances. Such as ectopic pregnancies, mirror syndrome, failure of prescribed birth control, et.

Sargon is a liberal, but slightly conservative (anti immigration and anti eu)

Why do you ask, @Lo?

I mistook you from someone else sry

I agree with the first two, but not the third, @Brokkr.

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Well, you may have seen me speak in French elsewhere, @Lo.

But, all is well, my friend.

not at all

but I know a french jeremy very active on the itnernet who has similar opinions thats it

I don't include rape in that list, because rape is a medical emergency. One that the ER should use a rape kit to take DNA for prosecution AND give a 'morning after pill'. Thus the surgical procedure for that rationale is not needed.

@Brokkr, agreed, but at the will of the victim/patient, of course.

@Lo, interesting. Perhaps I may enjoy some of his content.

Jeremy, the chances of pregnancy while on birth control are lower than 0.001%, especially given fertility periods of a human female when the overall truth is factored.

I tend to harbor the view a risk one accepts by engaging in an act requisite to reproduction.

We're in the era where it's acceptable for such acts to be for pleasure and to be of no consequence, part of the problem, something predominantly advocated for by feminism to begin with.

Well, the overall solution is to create birth control choices for men as well.