Message from @Terry Arcona

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2019-07-12 05:44:20 UTC  

well, not really

2019-07-12 05:44:23 UTC  

I retract that statment

2019-07-12 05:44:23 UTC  

lol

2019-07-12 05:44:51 UTC  

the gov is GIVEN a monopoly on force in exchange for agreeing to protect your rights

2019-07-12 05:45:23 UTC  

i.e. apply that force discriminately and fairly

2019-07-12 05:45:32 UTC  

I sense 56 iq people

2019-07-12 05:45:38 UTC  

are there ancaps around?

2019-07-12 05:45:43 UTC  

go away and it will rise to 100

2019-07-12 05:45:46 UTC  

@ManAnimal who says there wouldn't be opposition, practicaly all AnCaps I know of are armed, presumably most people would be in an AnCap society, we're talking about changeing the out look of people and raising people to be more responsible rather than the type of turds mondern public education is poping out

2019-07-12 05:45:49 UTC  

Now, if we argue idealistic versions (utopias).. Representative Republic wins out in my estimate.

2019-07-12 05:46:05 UTC  

yes, hence the error of initial criteria

2019-07-12 05:46:37 UTC  

Well, is the argument idealistic or realistic?

2019-07-12 05:46:39 UTC  

The govt doesn't control industry unless you go full socialism and that doesn't work. We live in a bastardized capitalist system where the govt intervenes in the market and ignores monopolies.

2019-07-12 05:46:41 UTC  

@SageTheory it's amonopoly of force yes it very much is

2019-07-12 05:46:44 UTC  

you are projection from our CURRENT system which ENABLED those ancaps to acquire skills, resources and discipline into your theoretical world

2019-07-12 05:47:05 UTC  

but take away the current paradigm and those fundamentals disappear as well

2019-07-12 05:47:27 UTC  

How does one train in a realistic AnCap implementation?

2019-07-12 05:47:39 UTC  

Ignores the ones that they choose to tho

2019-07-12 05:47:39 UTC  

they don't

2019-07-12 05:48:01 UTC  

I'll give it as something that's possible.

2019-07-12 05:48:03 UTC  

@Laucivol Representative Republic have failed misrably

2019-07-12 05:48:13 UTC  

but any theory must have clear entry criteria from a common external domain as any competing theory

2019-07-12 05:48:56 UTC  

i.e. people in the wilderness choose representtion democracy vs people in the wilderness choose to be ancap society

2019-07-12 05:48:59 UTC  

@Terry Arcona Okay, sure.. but praytell how a *realistic* ancap society would work better?

2019-07-12 05:49:07 UTC  

what?!

2019-07-12 05:49:14 UTC  

Representative Republic have failed misrably?

2019-07-12 05:49:17 UTC  

So just tear or down lol

2019-07-12 05:49:27 UTC  

yet you sit there had can express you ideas on a compute

2019-07-12 05:49:32 UTC  

Tear it down*

2019-07-12 05:49:33 UTC  

with food in your belly

2019-07-12 05:49:42 UTC  

and no nuclear fallout

2019-07-12 05:49:47 UTC  

failure?

2019-07-12 05:49:58 UTC  

I'll play along, but I need to be convinced why it's better than the current.

2019-07-12 05:50:24 UTC  

Honestly I'm still waiting on the Ancap solution to the monopoly problem.

2019-07-12 05:50:27 UTC  

again, projection from the current paradigm which enables entitlement into fantasy

2019-07-12 05:50:32 UTC  

just like the communists

2019-07-12 05:50:41 UTC  

So far I've only seen idealism equivalent to Marxism.

2019-07-12 05:50:46 UTC  

^^

2019-07-12 05:50:50 UTC  

Because all I've heard is that it's a problem like I didn't know.

2019-07-12 05:50:52 UTC  

@Laucivol that's what I've been explaining but aperently you're not paying attention

2019-07-12 05:50:53 UTC  

I'd agree with taht assessment