talk to kessler if you have an issue

but just my own opinion, if you think the swastika isnt bad optics you are autistic af

optics don't change the way anyone thinks about you, I'm a Nazi you're a Nazi, we're all Nazis to them

And then 5 years from now where do you want to be? You want a white-ethno state?

Because in order to do that we cant stay in the middle of the road , unless you're an civic nationalist

Thats what I love about you goys, you don't give a fuck lol.

anyways, the word is the word.

kessler said no explict shit, so thats the playbook.

That's fine, I was just wondering. I just find it weird how with such a title like UTR, were going completely against that. Kind of makes me want to show up with 30 men wearing swastikas.

I thought you guys were going white bloc?

We were.

I didn't know we're changing the name to "unite the alt lite"

Until they said no swastikas

ehh

dont feign the autist m8

its old

I love how everyone just calls something autistic when you actually want to accelerate

Technically no current org uses the swastika in america except for the ANP and only one guy is coming from what I know

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@Quartermaster's Ghost I hear ya. It's funny how everyone is so scared of the symbol of peace. As if they believe 6 million died

Some people are paranoid about optics, it comes from the misnomer that 1.0 wasn't successful because of optics. In some ways they are correct due to legacy media owning the whole narrative in those days. But the real killer was SPLC lawsuits and FBI operations to destroy it. The FBI is no longer funded for operations like that and the internet kills narrative monopoly, knowing Gen Z they'll think you're a cuck if you countersignal even the Klan XD

Yeah, but eventually everyone will have their own logo and that will repeat the same stigma.

If our experience (TWP) with the old guard has taught us anything is if you just plow through the narrative and don't give a flying fuck it works better than pretending to not be the nazis.

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Works in Europe don't see why it wouldn't work here. 3rd largest party in Greece doesn't pretend they aren't the ebul nazis

Exactly. Vanguard is hated because we like to be honest. We say fuck you to the media and journalists. And a big fuck you to social media, and leftist opposition. We love working with IE, TWP , etc. and its not about being better than the other, or trying to stir trouble. Its a statement that if we truly want to achieve a white ethno state then NOW is the time to make that change. Cant be worrying about optics our whole lives, or you'll end up at a dead end surrounded by everything you despise

If you're worried about how the opposition views you you have the same slave morality as the conservatives so fuck it

I literally couldn't have that any better @Aaron - VA 👏 👏

Exactly. I'm going to end the convo though in this channel, we can change it to the jones channel if we want

To keep this about Flags and banners

Although I agree that the left will see us as Nazis no matter what, I think we can all agree the swastika doesn't do us any favors. The fucking NSM dropped the swastika and they were better off for it.

fair enough

tbh I don't think anyone is bringing Swastika flags but KKK ones for sure.

Well we should all strive for own image and build off that , because we are not Germany and it's not the 30's/40's but we shouldn't be hesitant to fly them with us

Right I'm not using the swastika cause I'm not larping as the NSDAP I have a real party that exists to represent.

Unless you find me another Hitler, I wont stop using it

Celtic Cross I won't ever countersignal

I'm hoping to see some Gen Identity flags

@✠ Deus Vult ✠ I love that flag. Whoever developed it hit a homer in.

This as a banner is a good optic also.