theyll just become alcoholics anyway

again, you are focusing on a symptiom not a cause

well mananimal

the world isnt fucking sunshine and rfainbows

sometimes people get sd

sometimes life is cruel

shit happens

that is my EXACT POSTION

Substance abuse is one of the single largest drags on human society.

It literally killed the Chinese fucking Empire. Or do you not remember the Opium Wars?

no SHIT the world is crulel

only an autist would interpret my statements as 'soft'

people neeed DISCPLINE

you can provide that with penalty OR incentive

No, they need purpose.

Substance abuse brought down China, after two thousand years of steady rule with only minor hiccups.

It's currently bringing down the United States.

incentive is FAR more effective

This is where commies were right.

otherwise, we'd pick totaltiarianissmm

rateher than free markets driven by incentive

Give people something to do - together - and they will support each other.

And it doesn't even need to be The Great Cause.

No they won't.

give people an incetive to to do something togetehr

THEY do

you fucking elitist

Have you ever seen a former methhead who goes to church? They're a huge fucking drag everywhere they go. A perpetual blight on society.

i have know meth heads personally

and each one turned to drugs because they didn't have any other influence in their life

Party culture is a thing. The adherents of said culture actively try to recruit others into their "culture," and their "party culture" is a huge part of why the United States is struggling right now.

they weren't challenged or were given cards i mpossible to play

not everyone is the same

some can't fucntion under pressure

some can't function WITHOUT pressure

Lol I wouldn't absoove them of their responsibility for heir own downfall

Party culture is there because youngsters - and middle-aged - don't have anything better to do.

and those that turn to drugs usually are the later

Or it's expensive, which is the same.

In my experience, the deserving poor are out there. Even people on disability. Most of them are just kind of lost, as if they're waiting for their life to attain some kind of purpose.

Party culture is a purpose in and of itself. Party animal types are not searching for meaning. They have it.

Legalize drugs and you'll probably start to see things get less shit

they don't feeel alive unless they are on the edge

With that lot