Message from @Polekov

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2019-07-15 08:07:37 UTC  

But you know what's a worse strategy?

2019-07-15 08:07:41 UTC  

teaming up with your rivals

2019-07-15 08:07:48 UTC  

and then putting your head in the sand

2019-07-15 08:07:53 UTC  

while they penetrate you

2019-07-15 08:08:02 UTC  

i mean are you saying that the molotov-ribbentrop pact was bad for the ussr or what

2019-07-15 08:08:10 UTC  

the ussr without a doubt got the good end of the deal

2019-07-15 08:08:18 UTC  

i mean i suppose

2019-07-15 08:08:23 UTC  

There's also that

2019-07-15 08:08:30 UTC  

but

2019-07-15 08:08:38 UTC  

the molotov ribbentrop was good for expansion and imperialism

2019-07-15 08:08:44 UTC  

it was garbage for actually fighting Germany

2019-07-15 08:08:51 UTC  

because think about it

2019-07-15 08:08:59 UTC  

Russia invaded Poland too, but England and France didn't declare war on Russia for invading Poland. They declared war on Germany, which got like 1/3 of the Polish territory.

2019-07-15 08:09:04 UTC  

your troops are right on the border, and the germans can (and they did this irl) surround them and wipe them out

2019-07-15 08:09:10 UTC  

it's because of the way they did it

2019-07-15 08:09:11 UTC  

If there is a neutral buffer state in between

2019-07-15 08:09:21 UTC  

You know approximately when the germans are coming

2019-07-15 08:09:23 UTC  

and u can build up

2019-07-15 08:09:29 UTC  

the soviet union marched into polish territory after the polish state was seen to have ceased existing

2019-07-15 08:09:30 UTC  

if you are right next to them, u dont rly have time to build up

2019-07-15 08:09:37 UTC  

you get fucked immediately

2019-07-15 08:09:40 UTC  

It makes sense they didn't declare on Russia because they couldn't have possibly beat both of them at once

2019-07-15 08:09:40 UTC  

so it didn't constitute an invasion in the eyes of the international community

2019-07-15 08:09:50 UTC  

this is partially why the german invasion of the USSR was so successful initially

2019-07-15 08:09:53 UTC  

Its not like they did the cold war afterwards lol

2019-07-15 08:09:56 UTC  

because they just jumped on them and destroyed them

2019-07-15 08:09:57 UTC  

there wouldn't have been a neutral state between them

2019-07-15 08:10:02 UTC  

germany would have just taken all of poland

2019-07-15 08:10:10 UTC  

Best irony of the war: Germany's air raid towers couldn't be destroyed by any weapons we used in the war (besides nukes), so they were basically impregnable fortresses.

Unfortunately there weren't enough of them.

2019-07-15 08:10:12 UTC  

again, the USSR could've guarenteed poland

2019-07-15 08:10:13 UTC  

Tfw you invade your own buffer state

2019-07-15 08:10:22 UTC  

or done something

2019-07-15 08:10:24 UTC  

the ussr tried to do something similar

2019-07-15 08:10:29 UTC  

but the allies ignored their request

2019-07-15 08:10:35 UTC  

They wanted other peoples stuff

2019-07-15 08:10:36 UTC  

what do the allies have to do with anything

2019-07-15 08:10:41 UTC  

Like all Communists

2019-07-15 08:10:46 UTC  

what stopped the ussr from saying

2019-07-15 08:10:48 UTC  

the ussr sent a request to the allies to conduct a joint invasion of germany with britain, france, and poland

2019-07-15 08:10:49 UTC  

"germany dont invade poland"

2019-07-15 08:10:56 UTC  

yeah i believe that