Message from Kurt in Charlottesville 2.0 #flags_banners_signs
And i'm not going to wait till tomorrow to see that anything far right is on the list. Unless you change the event name to "Unite the Identitarians"
@Aaron - VA hasn't been defined yet, but the general guidance will be no hoods, no swastikas etc
common sense applies I think
But the swastika is technically the right as well
So how is it Unite the Right
im just passing on info
talk to kessler if you have an issue
but just my own opinion, if you think the swastika isnt bad optics you are autistic af
optics don't change the way anyone thinks about you, I'm a Nazi you're a Nazi, we're all Nazis to them
And then 5 years from now where do you want to be? You want a white-ethno state?
Because in order to do that we cant stay in the middle of the road , unless you're an civic nationalist
Thats what I love about you goys, you don't give a fuck lol.
anyways, the word is the word.
kessler said no explict shit, so thats the playbook.
That's fine, I was just wondering. I just find it weird how with such a title like UTR, were going completely against that. Kind of makes me want to show up with 30 men wearing swastikas.
I thought you guys were going white bloc?
I didn't know we're changing the name to "unite the alt lite"
Until they said no swastikas
dont feign the autist m8
I love how everyone just calls something autistic when you actually want to accelerate
Technically no current org uses the swastika in america except for the ANP and only one guy is coming from what I know
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@Quartermaster's Ghost I hear ya. It's funny how everyone is so scared of the symbol of peace. As if they believe 6 million died
Some people are paranoid about optics, it comes from the misnomer that 1.0 wasn't successful because of optics. In some ways they are correct due to legacy media owning the whole narrative in those days. But the real killer was SPLC lawsuits and FBI operations to destroy it. The FBI is no longer funded for operations like that and the internet kills narrative monopoly, knowing Gen Z they'll think you're a cuck if you countersignal even the Klan XD
Yeah, but eventually everyone will have their own logo and that will repeat the same stigma.
If our experience (TWP) with the old guard has taught us anything is if you just plow through the narrative and don't give a flying fuck it works better than pretending to not be the nazis.
Works in Europe don't see why it wouldn't work here. 3rd largest party in Greece doesn't pretend they aren't the ebul nazis
Exactly. Vanguard is hated because we like to be honest. We say fuck you to the media and journalists. And a big fuck you to social media, and leftist opposition. We love working with IE, TWP , etc. and its not about being better than the other, or trying to stir trouble. Its a statement that if we truly want to achieve a white ethno state then NOW is the time to make that change. Cant be worrying about optics our whole lives, or you'll end up at a dead end surrounded by everything you despise
If you're worried about how the opposition views you you have the same slave morality as the conservatives so fuck it
Exactly. I'm going to end the convo though in this channel, we can change it to the jones channel if we want
To keep this about Flags and banners
Although I agree that the left will see us as Nazis no matter what, I think we can all agree the swastika doesn't do us any favors. The fucking NSM dropped the swastika and they were better off for it.
tbh I don't think anyone is bringing Swastika flags but KKK ones for sure.
Well we should all strive for own image and build off that , because we are not Germany and it's not the 30's/40's but we shouldn't be hesitant to fly them with us