look at the left for example

the individual needs support from others. if the group is obstructionist, the individual is powerless

This is not a dychotomy though...

too many different ideas

You are both an individual and a part of a group

true

both of these are essntial to your personhood

The individual can subvert the group

hence the obsructionist

control their narrativ

and bypass the obtructionism

to what effect?

only themselves

To get what they want done

why else bypass obstructionism

how? an individual cannot generate the same output a a group

You're just arguing for anarchy

it's pointless

even at low efficiency

No

the group wins

the group can be more effective

but only if they have hyper focus

otherwise they splinter

we are tribal animals

only the group with the most effective lead triumphs

an individual doesn't have thaose limits

wea re good at creating systems wherein groups have such focus

das what makes us SOCIAL

but individuals are vulnerable and easy to silence or undermine

I'm not talking about all individuals

i am

I'm talking about effective individuals

most people are follower

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saying "the individual is stronger then the group" is just pure retardation. Go live in the forrest, grow your own crops, lmao

even the MOST effective is vulnerable and easy to silence

Depends on the group

This is not an either or dynamic

as I said

this distinction is a trap