Message from @2K

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2019-07-21 06:41:20 UTC  

@Samaritan To be honest internationalism is not that different to nationalism - it's just internationalism is very much expansionist with the goal of one nation on Earth

2019-07-21 06:41:44 UTC  

Funny enough nazis wanted world reich, so they were pretty much internazis

2019-07-21 06:41:49 UTC  

The EU as an institution might be internationalist

2019-07-21 06:41:53 UTC  

But its followers aren't

2019-07-21 06:42:15 UTC  

As far as I can tell they are actually nationalists for it

2019-07-21 06:42:36 UTC  

proud EU nationalist reporting in tbh

2019-07-21 06:42:51 UTC  

Internationalism just has a much bigger nation. One that has no contesting neighbours

2019-07-21 06:42:57 UTC  

o7🇪🇺

2019-07-21 06:43:07 UTC  

Kinda narcissistic when you think about it

2019-07-21 06:45:02 UTC  

I like to use PEP as an example because he doesn't see anything wrong with the majority of the UKs laws being made by a foreign nation not because hes an internationalist but because he considers himself to be a member of the foreign nation (the EU) first and a member of the UK second probably the way an American sees their state vs their federal gov

2019-07-21 06:46:01 UTC  

as a proper EU citizen should do when we federalise

2019-07-21 06:46:26 UTC  

He already views it as if it is federalised

2019-07-21 06:46:37 UTC  

Which is the problem

2019-07-21 06:46:55 UTC  

Because not only is it not federal but everyone joined under the pretence that, that wouldn't happen

2019-07-21 06:47:14 UTC  

>but everyone joined under the pretence that, that wouldn't happen

2019-07-21 06:47:28 UTC  

nope everyone joined for that to happen

2019-07-21 06:47:39 UTC  

I doubt anyone would have joined the EU if they where told up front that 75% of their laws would be made by a foreign nation

2019-07-21 06:47:51 UTC  

to develop year by year a common european nationality

2019-07-21 06:48:02 UTC  

in order to stop petty infighting

2019-07-21 06:48:22 UTC  

and that is the best thing about it

2019-07-21 06:48:51 UTC  

You don't need to become a federal state to stop infighting

2019-07-21 06:49:01 UTC  

Just sign a document saying you won't go to war

2019-07-21 06:49:06 UTC  

EU can be an actual superpower power together, or just a chinese and american colony seperate

2019-07-21 06:49:18 UTC  

i prefer the first

2019-07-21 06:49:26 UTC  

It has no right to be other then by conquest

2019-07-21 06:49:48 UTC  

We need to unite against the threat of chinkout

2019-07-21 06:49:49 UTC  

do you know the concept of voluntary political union?

2019-07-21 06:49:56 UTC  

or nah

2019-07-21 06:50:41 UTC  

It would make Israel look like a fucking joke in the department of being an illlegitimate state

2019-07-21 06:50:42 UTC  

if a member doesnt like the EU can leave

2019-07-21 06:50:45 UTC  

Hey Athens people. Suck my dick

2019-07-21 06:50:48 UTC  

like the UK

2019-07-21 06:51:04 UTC  

No u

2019-07-21 06:51:17 UTC  

U off

2019-07-21 06:51:42 UTC  

Nations can't just leave the EU

2019-07-21 06:51:46 UTC  

wot