And b4 the industrial revolution, China was thw world's most powerful Empire

they were absolutely deleted by Euros

they don't remember that very fondly

china walled themselves off in their cities

its like western and eastern germany theres a reason you couldnt escape from the eastern side

fearing the degeneracy outside their empire

And the Chinese, as the Arabs, have a fucking long memory.

Except you can totally leave China

?

can they all?

ye

no

s'not very hard

normie citizens can leave china, but as far as the emperor and his court was concerned the outside didnt matter

there are people in "favoured areas" that can travel around

dude, you can totally travel as a Chink

but if you are in a unfavoured area then you are stuck there

you need a permit, yes

That's the biggest thing the East/Mid-East have on the West.. that holy shit long memory.

no

but it's not like the SU

where the gov isn;t gonna give one to u

unless extraordinary circumstances arise

and if you are from a specific place govt will never permit your travel

if ur an Uyghur Muslim no

Nah, I see tourist-Chinks all the time in the US as I fly around.

yes most of those are the rich bourgeoise

Mostly on the west coast, though.

the favoured elites

Oh, true.

Though just how amazed they are when an American does something nice for them strikes me as particularly notable.

it's not just the favored elites, lmao

This is part of why badmouthing the US internal (even as I do it) hurts my head - my experiences in the US are mostly folks being pretty swell to each other.

Do you understand that the entire REASON why the US is afraid of the Chinaman is that they are actually successful? They are not a sweatshop any more.

if we are talking mainland chinese people then yes barring extreme circumstance

no its not working

isolationist china was afraid the gweilos would steal their silk,ceramic and gunpowder tech. but they stagnated and without knowing the rest of the world got a head of them eventually

As a US citizen, the concern of China's defacto success is noteworthy, and continues to be.

And Europe's decline is disquieting, even disappointing.

china is vastly over blown in general in economics

pretty much