Message from @Laucivol

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2019-08-05 05:06:12 UTC  

Like choosing to disobey an order

2019-08-05 05:06:39 UTC  

Well, the implicit argument is that one has a duty to act.

2019-08-05 05:06:55 UTC  

you have a duty to follow orders but that duty was given when you signed up that they would follow certain standards

2019-08-05 05:07:08 UTC  

If you act too fast, or too slow, the vital moment, the critical point, the weak spot of the enemy at the precise time they are weakest. The Germans called this the *schwerpunkt*. Where you focus the tip of your spearhead.

2019-08-05 05:07:42 UTC  

so, if you are orderd to do something unethical, you refuse expecting full well to be executed at court martial

2019-08-05 05:08:02 UTC  

but, as you were fully prepared to die for your principles anyway....

2019-08-05 05:08:32 UTC  

I think that, over the course of two world wars, if *any* of the ability to determine those points is biologically determined. We’ve done a lot to eliminate that from the gene pool.

2019-08-05 05:08:52 UTC  

i am not so certain of that

2019-08-05 05:09:05 UTC  

One would think that it'll reassert itself.

2019-08-05 05:09:14 UTC  

already has

2019-08-05 05:09:21 UTC  

information age

2019-08-05 05:09:55 UTC  

This is why genetics isn't a holistic salve to societal woes.

2019-08-05 05:09:59 UTC  

encourags the extermes of 'only judegment' lacking all reason or 'only reason' lacking all judgment

2019-08-05 05:10:35 UTC  

I love the story of the marine cololnel

2019-08-05 05:11:06 UTC  

from vietname who sigle handedly outwitted the DOD wargame

2019-08-05 05:11:27 UTC  

because he was good at distributed thinking using what he had

2019-08-05 05:11:46 UTC  

why their philospophy was to centeralize everything

2019-08-05 05:12:05 UTC  

thus leadership saw things that weren't really there

2019-08-05 05:12:09 UTC  

>no executions since 1961
>fully expect execution .... for a non-capital offense
hahaha

2019-08-05 05:12:31 UTC  

too much information lets you see what you want and what you expect

2019-08-05 05:12:36 UTC  

By the time I was in, the focus was pretty much on maximal decentralization.

2019-08-05 05:13:20 UTC  

Clarification: by maximal I mean to the utmost, not complete.

2019-08-05 05:13:41 UTC  

well, to a point. no offense, but the marines are usually in the front TAKING orders from the guys in the rear with the gear

2019-08-05 05:13:54 UTC  

Well, yes.

2019-08-05 05:14:14 UTC  

that's how chain-of-command works

2019-08-05 05:14:23 UTC  

Which is probably why there was the emphasis on small-unit leadership.

2019-08-05 05:14:46 UTC  

not always; like management, some are good at delegating and some want to micro-manage

2019-08-05 05:16:09 UTC  

requiring everyone to explain the 'why, what, and how' takes time. best to let those that are most familar with their specific circumstances figure out how to best effect the goal. You just tell them the WHY you want something done

2019-08-05 05:16:43 UTC  

If i know WHY you need something, I can then CHOOSE from many 'hows' in my tool belt to acheive that objective

2019-08-05 05:17:16 UTC  

Right, knowing the why from the boots on the ground level is useful for that very reason.

2019-08-05 05:17:30 UTC  

exactly.

2019-08-05 05:17:52 UTC  

As Dwight Eisenhower said, "Plans are useless. Planning is everything"

2019-08-05 05:18:12 UTC  

The act of planning allows you to quickly anticipate

2019-08-05 05:18:49 UTC  

BAMCIS

2019-08-05 05:19:25 UTC  

I've seen it... can't rememeber

2019-08-05 05:19:52 UTC  

Damn military and their Acronymns.. sounds like a rap song sometimes

2019-08-05 05:20:31 UTC  

Lol, IKR

2019-08-05 05:21:40 UTC  

lol

2019-08-05 05:21:51 UTC  
2019-08-05 05:22:16 UTC  

But, what I always recall is the mantra of Supervise- Supervise is the most important step.