Message from @ETBrooD

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2019-07-31 21:00:48 UTC  

You can break that down , no sweat, just have law's to prohibit mergers

2019-07-31 21:01:05 UTC  

Which hasn't been happening!

2019-07-31 21:03:30 UTC  

The actual problem has been discovered and is being discussed. The issue of platform/publisher.

2019-07-31 21:04:01 UTC  

Disney is also a monopoly, is that a problem? Not really.

2019-07-31 21:04:22 UTC  

"It's not a problem that companies can collude with each other to keep prices high, make up their own rules, and unperson anyone they want"

2019-07-31 21:04:42 UTC  

and yes disney being a monopoly is a problem

2019-07-31 21:04:49 UTC  

No it's not

2019-07-31 21:04:57 UTC  

how is it not

2019-07-31 21:05:13 UTC  

What's Disney doing that's so terrible?

2019-07-31 21:06:51 UTC  

blocking competition, stagnating the movie industry with constant remakes that can hog the time from other movies, they also have a massive fallback safety net for doing literally anything bad. If they fuck up a specific property or IP then there's absolutely no recourse whatsoever, it's just dead.

They aren't accountable to their customers which means they can do whatever they want to the product without recourse

2019-07-31 21:09:04 UTC  

"Stagnating the movie industry" is entirely subjective
"Fuck up property/IP" they are facing backlash, and people can still create their own films anyway
"Blocking competition" citation needed

2019-07-31 21:10:09 UTC  

Where is the poetic licence if you have monopolies?

2019-07-31 21:12:10 UTC  

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/stagnation
```a failure to develop, progress, or advance:
periods of economic stagnation followed by bursts of growth.
the state or quality of being or feeling sluggish and dull:
Happily, they have been able to avoid stagnation in their ten-year marriage.```
the 4th definition is subjective, i agree, however the third is not, can you state the last 'new' ip disney has put out recently? i'm not that good at memory so i'm not a good person to ask,however I can tell you that it's mostly remakes now,

"They are facing backlash." Oh yeah sure sure, backlash that is frequently ignored and substituted for the loud minority that match their specific political views
"Blocking competition" It doesn't have to be active, you can passively block competition by simply being so big that everyone uses you and therefore nobody is willing to switch

2019-07-31 21:12:21 UTC  

I just think you have not thought this through at all @ETBrooD because you're quite happy to have the same message pumped to you. Its not how diversity works. I like independent bodies , and I liked Pixar animation . That broke the mold . But, what you are dealing here is stagnation. Competition, means , a new form of art or something new.

2019-07-31 21:12:53 UTC  

@Holo shit you are so my best friend ! We were typing the same thing together

2019-07-31 21:13:00 UTC  

Passively blocking competition is not a thing

2019-07-31 21:13:12 UTC  

it's hard to have a competitor when you've already been operating at a loss, EG youtube. Youtube operates at a MASSIVE loss right now, no company or startup is going to be able to compete with youtube simply because the barrier for entry is too damn high

2019-07-31 21:13:21 UTC  

If you're first to arrive, then it's your right to stay

2019-07-31 21:13:55 UTC  

No it's bollucks that's why Hollywood went crash. <:Veemote:501103628883591188>

2019-07-31 21:14:15 UTC  

That's not true at all lol... if you're not providing a service for your customers then there should be room for competition, but if competition can't compete, even if they offer a better service, that's bad

2019-07-31 21:14:40 UTC  

Disney is not blocking alternative service this way

2019-07-31 21:15:06 UTC  

Yeah but you can't do that with a monopoly because you end up not giving a shit about your consumers

2019-07-31 21:15:39 UTC  

They are quite often offering terrible deals to theaters, and they have faced backlash for that, too. Some theaters have strictly refused to take such deals.

2019-07-31 21:15:59 UTC  

i mean, if you want, i can do a deep search, but i'll bet money there's at least one virtual monopoly in this chart https://storage.googleapis.com/titlemax-media/1c8ace8f-every-company-disney-owns-13_pageversion-lg.jpg

2019-07-31 21:16:11 UTC  

It no longer produces high end products . It just mass produces junk. Ask Trump to do the analysis because I am sure , he would agree this is what's happened to the British markets .

2019-07-31 21:16:39 UTC  

They deplete the markets and then there is no growth or room for improvement.

2019-07-31 21:16:39 UTC  

I know Disney is a monopoly, my argument is that monopolies are not a bad thing

2019-07-31 21:16:59 UTC  

they aren't if there is room for competition

2019-07-31 21:16:59 UTC  

You're looking at it the wrong way in my opinion

2019-07-31 21:17:20 UTC  

There is room for competition though

2019-07-31 21:17:25 UTC  

Well you like to be the opposite of normal . You like to be argumentative without sound based arguments.

2019-07-31 21:17:43 UTC  

No there isn't if they take over or merge .

2019-07-31 21:18:04 UTC  

Then the legislation they come out with polarises those companies .

2019-07-31 21:18:06 UTC  

You can compete with Disney, you just don't become as big as Disney right now, because either you give up along the way or you get bought up, but nothing's actively stopping you.

2019-07-31 21:18:25 UTC  

There's a difference between being a strong competitor and being a competitor

2019-07-31 21:18:45 UTC  

That's what they said about Hollywood and it went bust.

2019-07-31 21:19:22 UTC  

There's always room for improvement when you have another big in the picture.

2019-07-31 21:19:23 UTC  

The issue with Google, Facebook, Twitter is not that they're virtual monopolies

2019-07-31 21:19:47 UTC  

The issue is they're protected from lawsuits because they're mislabeled as platforms when they're actually behaving like publishers.

2019-07-31 21:19:48 UTC  

IBM and silicon valley ... I rest my case

2019-07-31 21:20:32 UTC  

Okay so lets look at it they way i'm trying to look at it.

I set up a lemonade stand on a corner street. I operate for 5 years. I now have a nice shack, comfortable seating, a ceiling fan, and an employee

Now in order to maximize profits I degrade the quality of my lemonade and also reduce it's price. It's not unfair but it's also not that great of lemonade. I'm the only place around, where else are you going to get lemonade?

Now someone says 'fuck you and your lemonade I'm making my own' and they make a small stand opposite of mine. They have to sell their lemonade at a higher price because otherwise they may lose money. Their lemonade is of a much better quality, they are much more responsive and respectful to their customers.

However they don't get that many people because, everyone already visits me. I don't care about him, i'm not actively trying to shut him down, however he'll get stangled simply because, even though my lemonade isn't as good, it's much cheaper in a much better environment with everyone who's been buying it for the past 5 years.