Message from @Miniature Menace
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If you want to have the most financial success, you want your employees to be paid as little as possible, which means a two-class system is optimal. That's in line with socialist ideas.
Which is also, heavily Jewish.
I'm just reading up on the value of opening your home to strangers, this is going a bit fast
Can you link me to something that shows two-class systems are promoted?
Read Culture of Critique.
I mean in regards to Judaism
I don't know as much specifically about Judaism, but many of the biggest earlier promoters of socialism were Jews, as well as often being involved with organizing affiliate entities, unions, etc.
"Conversely, an inconsiderate guest in a hospitable house is condemned. While hosts may not make guests feel awkward, guests are obligated to be grateful for the labors of the host."
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/hospitality-in-judaism
Muslim mass migration... gratefulness... nope
While there's a theory that marxism is basically a backdoor to instituting some Talmudic vision of the world, where the only property owners are Jews, I haven't really investigated that much. It's likely some of the Jewish communists were genuinely atheistic, but also possible that they may have been using it as a graft, sure.
They don't practice it as an official doctrine in *their own* countries, so much.
But they push for it aggressively outside of Israel.
mhmmm, I'm skeptical
I think we're closer to discovering a mish-mash of ideologies, not a monolithic religious movement
"Give me your tired, your poor" ring a bell?
That sounds like a more believable thesis
No, sorry
it's not so much specifically tied to their religion, but certain ideas in their religion provide a set of values to serve as an impetus for instituting certain agendas.
Yeah ok I can see that
Picking and choosing your values, it's what everyone does all the time
Like, I don't think there's literally a part of the Jewish faith that says, "Infiltrate goy societies, and trick them into raising their boys as girls."
So basically your point would be the Jewish religion offers more of a baseline for open borders, whereas Christianity or atheism would be indifferent. It's not straight up propagation of open borders, just more tolerant towards it?
Just so I understand
It was a poem written by a Jew, attached to the Statue of Liberty after it was built.
Basically, an attempt at revision of its symbolic function.
Yeah attaching the idea of freedom to that of social justice
Written at a time when America was the land of opportunity, not the land of entitlements and handouts.
It was originally a symbol of comradarie between the US and the French, a symbol of their mutual struggle for liberation. But was later turned into a symbol of unfettered and uncritical immigration.
America should be the land of opportunity, IMHO, with the entitlements and handouts serving as emergency safety nets, etc.
Not as incentives to migrate.
So just to make sure I get your point
Are you indeed saying it's just that small little push for open borders, no matter how small, that makes the difference in Judaism?
i'm by no means arguing their would be no supporters of socialism, abortion, or transgenderism without jews, just to be clear
or even that this is something all jews support, they don't
k, so
My question would then be, is it just purely personal choice, an arbitrary personal choice that makes a Jew be more pro open border than the rest of them? Or is there something more institutional?
You'd have to ask a Jew.
Basically, what's happening isn't largely the consequence of the whole of the population of Jews, but a relatively small number of very influential and highly motivated jews, working in tandem with many non-jewish elites to push certain agendas.
The jewish vector of organization shouldn't be ignored, but it's not a universal condemnation of jews.
Well then it'd help if you started using that rhetoric instead