Message from @Miniature Menace

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2019-07-17 00:45:43 UTC  

Do you see the dilemma?

2019-07-17 00:46:27 UTC  

They can't condemn their past, this is about survival for them.

2019-07-17 00:47:07 UTC  

Yeah, that's where survival factors in, at least to an extent.

2019-07-17 00:47:30 UTC  

The funny thing about moral values, is that they tend to be easiest to practice when they don't come at a personal cost.

2019-07-17 00:47:50 UTC  

Correct, moral values must be tested, otherwise they're virtue signalling

2019-07-17 00:47:50 UTC  

Like, Free Speech, for instance.

2019-07-17 00:48:17 UTC  

Lots of people talk big about Free Speech, but the instant that ensuring it would disadvantage them sufficiently, they tend to be much less eager.

2019-07-17 00:48:36 UTC  

Well, yes and no, but that's a complicated issue

2019-07-17 00:49:19 UTC  

Either way, the moral dilemma of the Jews is what forces them into this type of behavior culturally speaking

2019-07-17 00:50:55 UTC  

Culture of Critique actually explores a lot of it. Basically, the theory is it's a set of adaptive behaviors which were useful mostly in the context of their diaspora, but led to a lot of conflict and antagonism with host cultures, resulting in frequent exiles. Ironically, perpetuating the very state which led to the behavior.

2019-07-17 00:51:31 UTC  

Yep, we're seeing the same thing again now in the USA with the whole "native population" narrative and whatnot

2019-07-17 00:51:43 UTC  

Cause people don't want to accept the fact that conquest is a part of history

2019-07-17 00:53:25 UTC  

Exactly. The thing that would probably defuse that whole situation, is just a recognition of the specific bad actors, and a reasonably sincere attempt to resolve the corruption. But this probably won't happen. The more "anti-semetic" people become, the more fiercely the Jews will tend to band together, because of the heightened sense of danger. Which will further exacerbate the issue.

2019-07-17 00:53:52 UTC  

Yep

2019-07-17 00:54:08 UTC  

This is another reason why I really don't like the (((them))) meme

2019-07-17 00:54:14 UTC  

I actually once promoted an op, inspired by "It's Okay to be White"

"It's Okay to be Jewish"

2019-07-17 00:55:28 UTC  

The reason I believe this is an effective strategy, is because, the Jews generally aren't, and at least *shouldn't* be targeted based on the fact they're Jewish. The mission needs to be clear that criticism should be directed at specific bad actors. And that, insofar as the general Jewish population isn't involved with this, there should be no animosity.

2019-07-17 00:55:59 UTC  

But to outsiders it looks like the meme is attacking all Jews

2019-07-17 00:56:14 UTC  

Also, it's effective because it will likely uncover the degree of neuroticism in the whole "shapeshifting" deal, and cause confusion and alarm among the peddlers of hysteria.

2019-07-17 00:56:44 UTC  

But why would we want that? It's not helping our cause from what I can see

2019-07-17 00:56:44 UTC  

Why would it look like it's attacking all Jews? The meme is explicitly "It's Okay to be Jewish"

2019-07-17 00:56:53 UTC  

No I mean the (((them)))

2019-07-17 00:57:11 UTC  

I thought you also meant that, my bad

2019-07-17 00:58:04 UTC  

I use that even when referencing people who I *don't* believe are part of some conspiracy or agenda. Because I think noticing is important. The crypsis is dangerous to facilitate. And I want to apply this consistently, instead of selectively.

2019-07-17 00:58:26 UTC  

Crypsis?

2019-07-17 00:58:37 UTC  

The whole "Hello fellow white people" strategy

2019-07-17 00:58:48 UTC  

basically, Jews pretending to not be Jews.

2019-07-17 00:58:54 UTC  

Yeah but, again

2019-07-17 00:59:05 UTC  

Outsiders see it as an attack on all Jews, not as a selective strategy

2019-07-17 00:59:36 UTC  

Identifying someone as a Jew shouldn't be an attack. Just an acknowledgement of reality.

2019-07-17 00:59:49 UTC  

It doesn't matter, the common man doesn't think like that

2019-07-17 00:59:56 UTC  

They need to learn.

2019-07-17 01:00:09 UTC  

How are they supposed to learn it if they're immediately repulsed?

2019-07-17 01:00:37 UTC  

Most who are immediately repulsed are pretty far gone anyway.

2019-07-17 01:00:55 UTC  

I'm very open to just about everything political, and even I just don't care to engage with people who do triple brackets

2019-07-17 01:01:17 UTC  

Also, I suspect it's a bit of a vent.

2019-07-17 01:01:28 UTC  

Yeah it feels good, but it's not helpful

2019-07-17 01:01:49 UTC  

"It's ok to be Jewish" on the other hand is incredibly smart

2019-07-17 01:01:53 UTC  

Several levels smart

2019-07-17 01:02:26 UTC  

Like, it's actually super frustrating to hear normies talk about someone who is inexplicably hostile to whites, or to nationalism, or to christianity, or promoting some variant of poz, and not make the connection that they're also Jewish.

2019-07-17 01:02:59 UTC  

Of course they don't make the connection, because it's not an obvious one, and it's also not the most relevant one