Message from @Hexidecimark

Discord ID: 603609941021818887


2019-07-24 15:24:46 UTC  

distinction*

2019-07-24 15:24:58 UTC  

I consider rights to be a subset of ethics

2019-07-24 15:25:02 UTC  

sure

2019-07-24 15:25:14 UTC  

but I don't understand the distinction between morals and ethics

2019-07-24 15:25:26 UTC  

Not important rn anyways

2019-07-24 15:25:29 UTC  

k

2019-07-24 15:25:52 UTC  

If ethics are capable of being superior under certain contexts

2019-07-24 15:27:12 UTC  

Then under certain contexts there can eventually be "best" set of ethics

2019-07-24 15:27:21 UTC  

theoretically

2019-07-24 15:27:28 UTC  

Since the "pool" of ethics is not infinite

2019-07-24 15:27:35 UTC  

Then

2019-07-24 15:28:06 UTC  

There can be a "best" system of ethics under larger contexts as well, one that may be more or less complex

2019-07-24 15:28:13 UTC  

Eventually

2019-07-24 15:28:26 UTC  

It could be very complex, or very simple

2019-07-24 15:28:29 UTC  

(I don;t even think the "in a certain context" is necessary, but sure)

2019-07-24 15:29:09 UTC  

You can find a system of ethics that is the best *universally*

2019-07-24 15:29:13 UTC  

Theoretically speaking

2019-07-24 15:29:18 UTC  

sure

2019-07-24 15:29:26 UTC  

your point?

2019-07-24 15:29:40 UTC  

Which would imply that there exist rights that are best to go by

2019-07-24 15:30:24 UTC  

To enforce upon the state that best system

2019-07-24 15:30:31 UTC  

(I mean, assuming you even know how to value your rules as giving good or bad outcomes. This value system would certainly be the moral system you are operating on, not the practical rules ur applying to achieve it...)

2019-07-24 15:30:50 UTC  

In other words

2019-07-24 15:30:52 UTC  

all ur doing

2019-07-24 15:31:06 UTC  

is saying I am God in this

2019-07-24 15:31:12 UTC  

which is fine (I guess)

2019-07-24 15:31:15 UTC  

but pls assume it

2019-07-24 15:31:17 UTC  

I at least dismiss total moral relativism as a valid concept

2019-07-24 15:31:22 UTC  

And no

2019-07-24 15:31:27 UTC  

you're doing the supremacy of will shtick

2019-07-24 15:31:35 UTC  

I admit my ability to judge and observe is limited

2019-07-24 15:31:37 UTC  

But

2019-07-24 15:31:56 UTC  

We hold the beliefs we do because we think they are the best we can think of

2019-07-24 15:32:03 UTC  

Else we wouldnt hold them

2019-07-24 15:32:10 UTC  

doubtful

2019-07-24 15:32:12 UTC  

Or we'd just be acting totally irrationally

2019-07-24 15:32:49 UTC  

we act to satisfy our limbic system

2019-07-24 15:33:13 UTC  

Where is that old Aristotle quote?

2019-07-24 15:33:24 UTC  

rationality is almost always dismissed if it does not comply with this prerogative

2019-07-24 15:33:31 UTC  

The one that says something like "hypocrite you are"

2019-07-24 15:33:45 UTC  

idk