Message from @Miniature Menace

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2019-08-03 03:07:45 UTC  

Or even accurate....

2019-08-03 03:08:05 UTC  

My own position is that humanity has already passed that threshold. But rather than having our selection based on any single AI, it's based on a gestalt of many, as well as symbiotic with the kinds of technology we create.

2019-08-03 03:08:58 UTC  

Humanity invents hammers, but access to a hammer also transforms the dynamic of human prosperity, and which attributes are the most valuable, and by how much.

2019-08-03 03:10:21 UTC  

Widespread literacy almost certainly transformed human attributes long term. Selecting for people who could more easily become literate in societies where literacy had value. And it becomes *more* valuable the more things can be done with it, up until the point where people choose for whatever reason to subsidize the existence of the incurably illiterate.

2019-08-03 03:11:25 UTC  

If you want a better grasp on quantitative genetics, watch stuff by Sean Last, or Alternative Hypothesis (Ryan Faulk)

2019-08-03 03:11:33 UTC  

Sure we generally refer to these as cultural technologies. They are not unique to humans bout our species uses them to an exponentially higher degree.

2019-08-03 03:12:06 UTC  

If Last is as bad at it as Faulk I'll pass.

2019-08-03 03:12:13 UTC  

>as bad at

2019-08-03 03:12:50 UTC  

The data he refers to isn't even fringe.

2019-08-03 03:13:24 UTC  

What specifically is he "bad at"?

2019-08-03 03:13:26 UTC  

Faulk is a sperg who spent 8 years trying to invent his own theories because the real ones wouldn't say what he wanted them to.

2019-08-03 03:14:47 UTC  

You'll notice a common thread among evolutionist everywhere. Not a one of them is arace realist.

2019-08-03 03:14:51 UTC  

One of the few big errors Faulk made, he admitted to, and that was in regards to overnormalizing averages. Which are even still statistically and demographically effective. They're just a very blunt instrument of selection.

2019-08-03 03:15:08 UTC  

LOL

2019-08-03 03:15:18 UTC  

so, basically, you actually *haven't* watched his videos

2019-08-03 03:15:42 UTC  

He loathes to dignify your "funny hat" fetishism with a response, but he does provide a rebuttal.

2019-08-03 03:16:13 UTC  

Only a couple and that was enough to write him off. Possibly worse than Mollymeme.

2019-08-03 03:16:13 UTC  

Most of the biologists agree with *him* they just don't use the same explicit language he does most of the time, because the university system is often very progressive.

2019-08-03 03:16:49 UTC  

Maybe present an actual argument.

2019-08-03 03:16:51 UTC  

Kek. None of them do.

2019-08-03 03:17:02 UTC  

Then you really are poorly informed

2019-08-03 03:18:11 UTC  

This is like where building 7 shit ends up being holographic planes and cruise missiles. You have to invent a grand conspiracy because the only other alternative is that a basement dweller like Faulk simply doesn't know what he is talking about.

2019-08-03 03:18:47 UTC  

On numerous occasions, Faulk has gone over how "credible" the official authorities are on matters.

2019-08-03 03:19:02 UTC  

I don't know what evolutionary biologists are you comparing Faulk's work to? Because I've read most of them.

2019-08-03 03:19:06 UTC  

Providing data from other official sources to corroborate, even.

2019-08-03 03:19:34 UTC  

Which evolutionary biologist have you read? Also, how many biological anthropologists, and which?

2019-08-03 03:19:56 UTC  

Yes the man spends hours a day looking for data points to try and shoehorn into his narrative he's certainly dedicated. He just doen't know anything about the topic.

2019-08-03 03:20:13 UTC  

After having watched two of his videos?

2019-08-03 03:20:21 UTC  

Which two, might I ask?

2019-08-03 03:20:38 UTC  

I wish this server had a nerd chat

2019-08-03 03:20:50 UTC  

This whole server is a nerd chat.

2019-08-03 03:21:06 UTC  

dunno vro

2019-08-03 03:21:39 UTC  

Well the WIlsons obviously and Dawkins, a lot of Trivers Trivers is my spirit animal. I like Sopalsky. I think on cultural technologies (from our earlier conversation) Boyd and Richerson is a must-read.

2019-08-03 03:22:21 UTC  

And what arguments have they provided against race?

2019-08-03 03:22:30 UTC  

Oh and Hamilton Hamilton is foundational. From our other directuion yoiu could guess I've covered Marghulis.

2019-08-03 03:23:04 UTC  

Not many at all because they know it's not a significant phila.

2019-08-03 03:23:52 UTC  

Hell, what argument *can* be provided for anyone who is actually an evolutionary biologist, other than some definition based attack?

2019-08-03 03:24:30 UTC  

You have to understand Faulk doesn't get how evolutionary theory even works. So if it's something you study it sounds like a guy saying, "The aerospace engineers are wrong. If you look at **This** chart you will see we have to put the wings on *sideways*"

2019-08-03 03:24:50 UTC  

That's not an argument.

2019-08-03 03:24:55 UTC  

Provide an example.

2019-08-03 03:25:51 UTC  

You want me to explain a subject I have been studying for 6 years in a Discord convo? Could we go with a simpler example?