Message from @Cesare Anasazi

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2019-08-04 18:16:49 UTC  

No, I would not say it cause I usually dont care

2019-08-04 18:17:00 UTC  

You don't care to do what?

2019-08-04 18:17:42 UTC  

I dont care enough to tell people my opinion on a thing that isnt particulary relevant to me

2019-08-04 18:18:26 UTC  

On the other hand, if my intern does a good job learning there's 2 things going on here.
1. I do good job teaching
2. He does good job learning

2019-08-04 18:18:51 UTC  

I dont feel I can claim pride for his ability to learn, only to my ability to teach

2019-08-04 18:18:54 UTC  

It's funny to me cause

2019-08-04 18:19:38 UTC  

Most people, whether they believe to be partly responsible for someone's success or not, when they don't say that out loud, it's because they know it's just a stupid thing to say and it can hurt the relationship

2019-08-04 18:19:52 UTC  

That's why they don't say it, because they don't wanna take away from that person's emotional high

2019-08-04 18:20:04 UTC  

Which is kind of a selfless act of course, parents do this all the time

2019-08-04 18:20:18 UTC  

Selflessness is immoral

2019-08-04 18:20:39 UTC  

It's not selfless

2019-08-04 18:20:50 UTC  

It's a selfless act, it's not "being selfless"

2019-08-04 18:21:09 UTC  

It's a kind of socially evolved behavior

2019-08-04 18:21:13 UTC  

We learn this

2019-08-04 18:21:33 UTC  

Because the backlash from deviating from it causes us harm, for example lost friends

2019-08-04 18:21:41 UTC  

So it's actually selfish in a way

2019-08-04 18:21:45 UTC  

But also selfless

2019-08-04 18:21:57 UTC  

Things can be both

2019-08-04 18:22:04 UTC  

It's a tradeoff basically

2019-08-04 18:22:10 UTC  

That's what societies do

2019-08-04 18:22:58 UTC  

I dont operate like that. WHen I have interns, which I do a lot, I help them understand, give them tasks and then tell them clearly what mistakes were made

2019-08-04 18:23:13 UTC  

Yeah but you don't steal their thunder

2019-08-04 18:23:23 UTC  

I dont get what you mean by that

2019-08-04 18:23:46 UTC  

When they feel successful, you let them have their moment, and you don't steal it for yourself, by saying something stupid like "I did that, I taught you, I'm awesome"

2019-08-04 18:24:05 UTC  

But I didnt do that

2019-08-04 18:24:05 UTC  

Unless you say it jokingly perhaps

2019-08-04 18:24:18 UTC  

I just helped them understand and they did something good

2019-08-04 18:24:42 UTC  

sometimes they do better than I do

2019-08-04 18:24:44 UTC  

Yes that's my point, you're acting selflessly in that moment, because acting selflessly ends up being the better option for you

2019-08-04 18:24:53 UTC  

no, I am not acting selflessly

2019-08-04 18:25:06 UTC  

I am helping them cause it will benefit me in the long run

2019-08-04 18:25:15 UTC  

and I am payed for helping them

2019-08-04 18:25:19 UTC  

............ I'm talking about you not stealing their thunder

2019-08-04 18:25:49 UTC  

there's some disconnect here my friend

2019-08-04 18:25:50 UTC  

Narcissists do that all the time, they take other people's credit and think they can just do that with no repercussions

2019-08-04 18:26:09 UTC  

I take no one's credit, I jst teach people how to do shit

2019-08-04 18:26:12 UTC  

If you were a narcissist, i.e. completely selfish, you'd steal people's thunder for a moment of glory

2019-08-04 18:26:20 UTC  

Yes that's my point, you're not a narcissist, you're not selfish

2019-08-04 18:26:26 UTC  

I am selfish

2019-08-04 18:26:32 UTC  

in fact I strive to be

2019-08-04 18:26:36 UTC  

Then you're intelligently selfish