Right now, I'm listening to a debate between Boris Johnson and Mary Beard, on Greece v Rome. It's glorious.

lol

i listened to that a long time ago

imagine being called "Beard" and being a woman

sad times

she came out defending that bbc black roman cartoon

lmfao

*Sigh*

she seems respected as a historian, but ive always noticed a kind of wishful thinking on her part

like she emphasizes the things she wants to be true

in these cases Rome's multicultural aspects

She has excellent knowledge of history, but yes, she does have quite a strong bias.

and suddenly that turns into, its entirely possibly for there to be a family of african romans in britain

so common it warrants this depiction on the bbc

it's not impossible

but the possibility is not the point here

true

cartoon equivalent of this

we wuz compozers an shiiiiit

The problem is that they exaggerated the amount of black people in Roman Britain. A handful of black soldiers makes sense, since there were soldiers from the north of Africa, but to have them ALL be black or mixed-race is absurd.

Yes, we wuz Kangs.

this is woke history tho

its history designed to create like a new mythos for multicultural britain

According to Geoffrey of Monmouth, We Wuz Trojans. This kind of bullshit has been around for centuries.

Not quite. The problem isn't inaccuracy as such. I mean it is, but that is a minor problem because that might as well be caused by a glitch in the system that allowed through someone who was wrong to spread their honest mistake. Here it is lying on purpose for the benefit of a political agenda, and doing so systematically.

Steven Moffat the tv producer succinctly summarized the agenda talking about black washing on doctor who

"We've kind of got to tell a lie. We'll go back into history and there will be black people where, historically, there wouldn't have been, and we won't dwell on that.

"We'll say, 'To hell with it, this is the imaginary, better version of the world. By believing in it, we'll summon it forth'."

that last part is the motto of much of this revisionism

It's not error, it's the rejection of logocentrism.

Geoffrey of Monmouth's mythohistory of Britain was just as ideologically-driven as woke history now.

then it was just as bad

In his case, it was about creating a proud mythic past for the British people to be proud of. Unlike woke history, however, Monmouth's work had a positive effect, as it spawned the Arthurian legend.

Like woke history, though, many people believed his History of the Kings of Britain to be historical fact, until the 1500's, when Tacitus's accounts of the Britons were re-discovered.

The problem with Woke Moffat was that he put the settings for his characters in like 1814, and made a huge deal about "slavery still being a thing"

When we know full goddamn well that WIlliam WIlberforce abolished the slave trade in 1809 in Britain

So those would all be free men for the most part and it's drama that literally wouldn't exist.

So it was DOUBLE bullshit.

Moffat was an idiot. The worst thing about Doctor Who now is that his replacement, Chibnall, is even worse.

I heard they """sacked him""" as the britbongs are wont to utter

Apparently he fucked up the toy sales by fucking up the one Dalek he did.

Yes. Apparently he's been fired.