Message from @whiic
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Like, you had to ruin the entire look with *heart* sunglasses.
Or, I'm just seeing things.
This is possible, too.
(Just a lil sleep deprived.)
nah the niggers of Europe are the polish
I find it funny how Sargon takes the time of day to tell magic is not real... but does not say "god does not exist".
Why is it important to tell one type of magic is not real, but think another type of magic (to which English royalty, ruling system and national religion is based on) is practically attacked without a reason? How is it not important to call out bullshit when majority of the population is mentally insane and "sane" only via tailored exception to protect the feelings of the insane?
Trannies are insane, and so are the religious.
Because religion isn't always meant as magic through God. That's religion taken at it's literal word. Sargon views religion through the lense of religion as a system of parables to teach how to live a meaningful and productive life in society. He doesn't debunk religion because unlike the idea of magic. It serves a purpose
I mean, I agree that it's silly and embrassing to think you are casting hexes but if you think you are talking to the creator of the universe, I think you belong into a padded room. You should be locked up for your own safety.
He does debunk when God is used as the reason for a bad argument
Usually it's considered insane only if you hear God respond, but I think talking to God is already insane enough.
Also "casting hexes" is more like talking to God rather than having God talk back, so it's not worse than going to church to pray.
Prayer does have a function, how often have you reconsidered a thought after hearing it vocalized? The classic "that sounded better in my head". Voicing our concerns in the form of prayer makes it feel less like talking to yourself like a crazy person and gives you an extra opportunity to analyze your own thoughts. And sometimes this gives a little inspiration or introspection, and you change your mind
@tea_in_space Polish are hardworking people. The niggers of Europe are the gypsies. They don't work. A race of thieves and sellers of stolen and counterfeit goods.
"Prayer does have a function, how often have you reconsidered a thought after hearing it vocalized?" --- And "magic" doesn't have other functions than to literally affect reality outside of spellcasters themselves?
"Voicing our concerns in the form of prayer makes it feel less like talking to yourself like a crazy person" --- So, thinking about stuff with inner dialogue rather than talking to an imaginary friend (as an adult) is ... *less* insane?
Why is inner dialogue insanity to you but believing you talk to creator of universe is not?
You're doing the Shapiro dodging by arguing non-religious benefits from prayer. Maybe you should at least recognize the benefits of spellcasting if you don't take that literally?
There are no benefits to spell casting. It's literally an authoritarian action to attempt it "I want the world to change to my whims"
Because I dislike how everything is tailored with God-sized exception to everything. For example "Facts don't care about your feelings" doesn't exactly fit with the model of praying is good because it feels good.
@randomNPCno3 So, is Styx an authoritarian?
He believes in some sort of magic, rituals, occult, etc.
Depends, does he just want to cast fireballs or reshape reality?
Also, asking for God to do as he pleases (which he would do anyway) but pleading him to side with them is not authoritarian toward others? It's not authoritarian toward God but other people affected by will of God cannot certainly avoid consequences of God's actions.
You misunderstood what I meant prayer was for, prayer is more like asking for advice, not intervention
If you argue for prayer not to carry pleading toward God but just as a means of having an opportunity to evaluate your own thoughts... how about de-pathologizing inner dialogue?
In order to ask someone for advice, that someone must exist
Why not just stop calling people insane **if they think**?
otherwise you just speking with your imaginary friend
I'm not, and you seem to be making assumptions about my argument. I'm at best agnostic. But I know and appreciate the function of the church. I opt for just talking to myself, but t I still find it incredibly helpful to hear my arguments or opinions aloud before I make up my mind. Because inner dialogue has some inbuilt shortcuts that we unintentionally skip over to prove our argument to ourselves. Hearing it aloud as if it was coming from another person gives a sense of objectivity to analyze your thoughts.
The only function the church has is lying
Not the church as an institution, the church as a faith
Mere concept of gods is a lie
Faith is a lie as well
Faith means nothing but lying to yoursels
Faith exists without religion, it's just the belief in anything in the absence of solid facts
Why should I believe in anything
It's either is or isnt, believe is useless
Because if you don't you'll probably kill yourself before 40
I'm 27 and I am very well, thank you