Message from @The Electric Lizard
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How low do you need to go.
Internet censorship.
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> Banned
Then El Paso.
Traitorous hag
She is an idiot
Possibly the worst Lib Dem leader
I could have some respect for slightly more reasonable people like Vince Cable but she is just awful
british liberal democrats are the most inappropriately titled party ever
They do have the worst name, Given that they are barely Liberal and they are certainly not democratic
almost the least liberal party, period
Tories only barely eke them out
It depends what definition you use for Liberalism
the original one
the correct one
If you treat it as essentially being a slight divulgence of Libertarianism then they are certainly not Liberal
But many Liberal Parties nowadays are barely like that
the acknowledgement of the necessity of the state isn't a 'slight' difference, but basically yeah
Well no i don't think Libertarians want to remove the State
I think they just want to significantly reduce the size and power of the state
not most, no, they just want to take literally everything out of its responsibility
Most libertarians i know support a kind of Minarchist state
I maintain Andrew Ryan's Rapture as an accurate model of the logical conclusion of modern libertarianism
I think Libertarianism is different from what is essentially a form of radical objectivism which is what is displayed in Rapture
you know, minus genetic splicing
I dunno, dude, a wealthy russian immigrant industrialist builds a city underwater outside the jurisdiction of internationally recognized powers and invites other wealthy industrialists and innovators while simultanouesly leaving the contractors who built his city in his ideological dust?
I mean most Libertarianism believe in a state of some sort however in Rapture there basically isn't a Government the only thing that is done by Ryan is basic policing
ranting and raving about the 'great chain of industry'
Basic policing, until he decided literally no one can leave, and has his turf war with Fontaine
Fontaine fakes his death, Ryan Industries absorbs and cannibalizes Fontaine Futuristics, and the city becomes an oligarchy
I don't think Rapture is an accurate representation of Objectivism because the main problem in Rapture was that Fontaine created a monopoly on Plasmids that were poorly made however most Objectivists including Ayn Rand herself maintained the idea that Monopolies are impossible to create in a genuine free market and that they are caused by Government Intervention
Watch–Josh Hawley: ‘Elite Consensus’ for ‘Open Markets, Open Borders’ Disregards American Middle Class
> https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/08/03/watch-josh-hawley-elite-consensus-for-open-markets-open-borders-disregards-
Ayn Rand also ignored the need of a competitive corporation to grow
Besides the thing that destroyed Rapture was the Plasmids made by Ryan and Fontaine however since they are not a real thing if Andrew Ryan's form of Libertarianism was actually tried it couldn't be destroyed in the same way
Guess the communist action is taking effect...
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Poll: Less than Half of College Students Think America Is a Superpower
> https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2019/08/03/poll-less-than-half-of-college-students-think-america-is-a-superpower/
not in the same way, no, but beyond fictitious genetic superpowers, a strong metaphor for drugs and narcotics can be found
And there is no real example of a product like Plasmids that could really cause the same effect in real life, Since they are clearly on a different level to modern drugs
not perfectly equivilant, but not too dissimilar
his anti-socialist rhetoric was spot on, but those weren't the only people he was referring to when he spat out slurs against the 'parasite'
he correctly surmised that the unity of a people bound by a nation state was incompatible with his 'great chain' social construct
Well he essentially believed that all people should only be dependent on themselves which is why he opposed the social safety net