Message from @Muten
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I just wonder do you approve bulletproof hosting or do you think a hosting serves should have at least some measure of RESPONCIBILITY about what goes around their cyberspace?
e.g. I mean should it all be free for the taking as long as you have the money to pay in for the service or should you be liable by law if someone hosts real evil stuff at your servers and you do nothing at all to prevent it?
ancap says pay up for protection and you can host you're cp all you want
but
IDK
I kinda agree with ancap tbh
Thought I wouldn't lol
not the CP part
that was just a meme
I'm kind of wondering about that Internet dilemma myself-who should be fighting the Internet battles of today-the legislation and the police trying to find out who the "good guys" are or the users should be fighting their own battles for themselves?
That dilemma at the end of this YouTube video made me really think.
If you watch it you would see that the hosting provider was hosting both some ISIS websites and anonymous fighters trying to shut them down.
I don't like lawboomers coming in and ruining a natural system that's still in development with out of date and out of touch policies that sterilise the internet
I mean if a provider is hosting ISIS sounds bad, but their are also people using the same server to identify and expose the terrorists, so I don't see the real need to bring in the government
I was just wondering what was the right thing to do fro your perspective-let them fight each other over the virtual space and figure out who is better-ISIS or the anonymous or make the provider liable for what gets on his servers?
I mean if we go down the Absolute freedom Path, then we could legalize virtually everything-child pornography, terror guides, ultimately sick horror stories, direct threats to anyone and anything and God knows what sick nightmares people can come up with, too.
nah
You just need people to out them
you just don't look into it yourself
But if we start making companies liable for what is on their servers, than we can really be responsible if some really sick control freak starts censoring opinions as he pleases.
But what about the material @Muten ?
You can't criminalize something if it isn't a problem, so long as that material isn't posted online it doesn't need to be exposed
If someone gets to jail for posting something nasty should the material be banned off the Internet, too, or should it be allowed to circulate as long as there is anyone willing to download it?
well the thing is that anyone can go on the internet
so the government doesn't need to be offically legislated to go on and find this shit themselves if they feel ever so inclined
By that logic people can download tons of terrorist manuals, brutal killings, child pornography and God know what nasty stuff and just get away with hosting them as long as they are not the ones who actually made them at the first place.
Well the thing is that we already have laws about that stuff
they are only safe for as long as they can remain anonymous
and it's getting harder and harder to become let alone remain anonymous
1944 out of 10 would fuck the nazi party
he does have a point with "ban plastic straws, but not the plastic containers or anything else"