Message from @yordanyordanov

Discord ID: 602466824386379788


2019-07-21 11:40:41 UTC  

>norton

2019-07-21 11:40:55 UTC  

I just wonder. Are you pro or against it?

2019-07-21 11:41:10 UTC  

what

2019-07-21 11:41:21 UTC  

I'm not trying to advertise an YouTube channel!

2019-07-21 11:41:39 UTC  

nortan is an antivirus

2019-07-21 11:41:44 UTC  

it's infamously shit

2019-07-21 11:41:59 UTC  

I was just commenting

2019-07-21 11:42:25 UTC  

I just wonder do you approve bulletproof hosting or do you think a hosting serves should have at least some measure of RESPONCIBILITY about what goes around their cyberspace?

2019-07-21 11:44:15 UTC  

e.g. I mean should it all be free for the taking as long as you have the money to pay in for the service or should you be liable by law if someone hosts real evil stuff at your servers and you do nothing at all to prevent it?

2019-07-21 11:44:56 UTC  

ancap says pay up for protection and you can host you're cp all you want

2019-07-21 11:44:58 UTC  

but

2019-07-21 11:45:18 UTC  

IDK

2019-07-21 11:45:45 UTC  

I kinda agree with ancap tbh

2019-07-21 11:45:52 UTC  

Thought I wouldn't lol

2019-07-21 11:46:22 UTC  

not the CP part

2019-07-21 11:46:25 UTC  

that was just a meme

2019-07-21 11:46:25 UTC  

tfw no ancap gf

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/598762150810615808/602466405224546334/Tsuyu3.png

2019-07-21 11:46:58 UTC  

I'm kind of wondering about that Internet dilemma myself-who should be fighting the Internet battles of today-the legislation and the police trying to find out who the "good guys" are or the users should be fighting their own battles for themselves?

2019-07-21 11:47:23 UTC  

That dilemma at the end of this YouTube video made me really think.

2019-07-21 11:48:04 UTC  

If you watch it you would see that the hosting provider was hosting both some ISIS websites and anonymous fighters trying to shut them down.

2019-07-21 11:48:05 UTC  

I don't like lawboomers coming in and ruining a natural system that's still in development with out of date and out of touch policies that sterilise the internet

2019-07-21 11:50:00 UTC  

I mean if a provider is hosting ISIS sounds bad, but their are also people using the same server to identify and expose the terrorists, so I don't see the real need to bring in the government

2019-07-21 11:51:31 UTC  

I was just wondering what was the right thing to do fro your perspective-let them fight each other over the virtual space and figure out who is better-ISIS or the anonymous or make the provider liable for what gets on his servers?

2019-07-21 11:53:23 UTC  

I mean if we go down the Absolute freedom Path, then we could legalize virtually everything-child pornography, terror guides, ultimately sick horror stories, direct threats to anyone and anything and God knows what sick nightmares people can come up with, too.

2019-07-21 11:53:51 UTC  

nah

2019-07-21 11:54:05 UTC  

You just need people to out them

2019-07-21 11:54:13 UTC  

report them to the police and shit

2019-07-21 11:54:25 UTC  

you just don't look into it yourself

2019-07-21 11:54:25 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/598762150810615808/602468414992154625/20190709_175122.jpg

2019-07-21 11:54:57 UTC  

But if we start making companies liable for what is on their servers, than we can really be responsible if some really sick control freak starts censoring opinions as he pleases.

2019-07-21 11:55:56 UTC  

But what about the material @Muten ?

2019-07-21 11:56:56 UTC  

You can't criminalize something if it isn't a problem, so long as that material isn't posted online it doesn't need to be exposed

2019-07-21 11:56:58 UTC  

If someone gets to jail for posting something nasty should the material be banned off the Internet, too, or should it be allowed to circulate as long as there is anyone willing to download it?

2019-07-21 11:57:34 UTC  

well the thing is that anyone can go on the internet

2019-07-21 11:58:08 UTC  

so the government doesn't need to be offically legislated to go on and find this shit themselves if they feel ever so inclined

2019-07-21 11:58:30 UTC  

By that logic people can download tons of terrorist manuals, brutal killings, child pornography and God know what nasty stuff and just get away with hosting them as long as they are not the ones who actually made them at the first place.

2019-07-21 11:59:08 UTC  

Well the thing is that we already have laws about that stuff

2019-07-21 11:59:21 UTC  

they are only safe for as long as they can remain anonymous

2019-07-21 11:59:46 UTC  

and it's getting harder and harder to become let alone remain anonymous