Message from @ETBrooD

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2019-09-12 09:22:16 UTC  

Speaking of average height of blacks, arguments can be made that Jim Crow and Slavery didn't have that drastic of an effect on blacks as is hyped up, based on statistical measures available

2019-09-12 09:23:23 UTC  

The thing is, blacks have more genetic diversity, thus resulting in more extreme genetic variation that would give some individuals a greater edge in sports

2019-09-12 09:23:35 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613770471938195467/621637013036335134/DKvGFFk.png

2019-09-12 09:23:41 UTC  

> So we can see that, in adulthood, black slaves, despite being roughly the same height as whites today, were taller than most whites in the world, with the exceptions being English aristocrats and Swedes (incl. Swedes in Minnesota). How can this be, if slaves were viciously exploited?

2019-09-12 09:24:33 UTC  

You know, the one thing about humans that ties us all together is our reasoning faculty.
You can cling to the viscera, to your ancestral lineage and tradition.
You can claim that's what defines you because it's the oldest thing you can find, but that doesn't make it true.
Your ancestors had to figure things out for themselves, they had to use reason to live just the same as everyone else. There is no divine wisdom or revelation you can gain from them. They're just people too, you're not preserving anything of value. It's not group vs group, it's what you as an individual make of the world.
Thanks for coming to my Ted talk.

2019-09-12 09:24:54 UTC  

@ETBrooD I wonder why does that not show up in African American IQs

2019-09-12 09:25:16 UTC  

IQ is not so easy to inherit compared to physical variation

2019-09-12 09:25:32 UTC  

It is 50 to 80% inheritable

2019-09-12 09:25:44 UTC  

Maybe

2019-09-12 09:25:47 UTC  

yes but the faculties of people who share closer ancestry are primed by being subjected to selection pressures of similar environments to work in greater harmony with eachother

2019-09-12 09:26:13 UTC  

The research around IQ is not actually that great because it has been and still is being blocked so much

2019-09-12 09:26:25 UTC  

There's a conscious effort to block it

2019-09-12 09:27:15 UTC  

Sure, but whatever is there is quite extensively documented and IQ is arguably the greatest statistical measure in all of psychology, having the highest predictive power

2019-09-12 09:27:19 UTC  

Man it's as if our innate knowledge or instincts you might say are inherited from our ancestors

2019-09-12 09:27:29 UTC  

IQ does have great predictive power indeed

2019-09-12 09:27:44 UTC  

The thing is, the average black IQ is actually higher in the US than in Africa

2019-09-12 09:27:54 UTC  

And that is to be expected

2019-09-12 09:28:09 UTC  

What's surprising about it?

2019-09-12 09:28:20 UTC  

Well, it can't be completely genetic if that's the case

2019-09-12 09:28:22 UTC  

Well you'd hope so being in a 1st world country and all

2019-09-12 09:28:27 UTC  

It's hollow for g

2019-09-12 09:28:29 UTC  

So no

2019-09-12 09:28:32 UTC  

Try again

2019-09-12 09:28:35 UTC  

?

2019-09-12 09:28:38 UTC  

black people in america on average have 20-25% european admixture

2019-09-12 09:29:33 UTC  

Can't raise an bit of IQ without raping some slaves

2019-09-12 09:29:35 UTC  

So the IQ tests are made up of different subtests

2019-09-12 09:29:37 UTC  

You can't just say "ok the physical variation is not inherited, but IQ is"

2019-09-12 09:29:47 UTC  

Each subtest has its own heritability

2019-09-12 09:30:02 UTC  

And if you remove some subtests and add others, you can vary the IQ gap

2019-09-12 09:30:20 UTC  

There are certain problems with IQ tests, but the number one problem is that the research around it in regards to ethnicity is being blocked

2019-09-12 09:30:30 UTC  

We don't actually know the true numbers

2019-09-12 09:30:40 UTC  

But what's observed in the IQ of blacks in the US vs in Africa, is that the gains are only in the subtests which are not really heritable

2019-09-12 09:30:52 UTC  

When you control for admixture

2019-09-12 09:31:03 UTC  

That's called Flynn Effect

2019-09-12 09:31:04 UTC  

I wish I could agree, but I can't until the research is free to do its thing

2019-09-12 09:31:16 UTC  

us blacks do have a much higher iq than what their genes would predict though

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613770471938195467/621638934597861376/polygeniciq2.png

2019-09-12 09:31:20 UTC  

dunno why that is

2019-09-12 09:31:20 UTC  

There has been a lot of research on this