Message from @Jeremy
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That's why markets must exist.
Until you're able to eliminate scarcity of both labor and resources, you will always run into this issue.
@Jeremy How about the ability of a system to self-impose and self-organize its premised economical spheres?
Why should regulation be imposed on the OUTSIDE?
That's exactly what Capitalism is.
It is not an outside imposition.
What would happen if there is a certain obvious regulation framework imposed in the constitution like do not cut down all forests and do not poison people
but otherwise industry specific regulations are created by professional organizations themselves?
Largely at the municipal level more than anything.
Like the engineers writing the regulations for machines and equipment.
Have you ever read through municodes in the U.S.?
The architects writing construction regulations for buildings and so on.
It secures monopolies.
Yes, that is already the case.
I think each guild has its own abilities to regulate itself and only major cases require outside intervention.
You're missing the component of self-interest on part of these trade unions and organizations you speak of.
Just cut outside regulation under the bare minimum and inbuild competition into an organization and you have it.
How to create a self-sustaining economy SEPARATE from the government.
Their self-interest causes them to pursue regulatory efforts that create inefficient and non-competitive markets.
Why should self-interest be SOCIALIZED through unions or corporations.
I don't think it should.
Why don't we INBUID it through systems of hierarchy where the most competent rises due to his skills?
That subverts the function of free markets, which you appear to desire.
what's a free market
Weird how free markets don't exist anywhere in the world.
Not an absolutely free market, no.
Instead of having unions or the like have organizations tasked with a particular activity that could be created or dissolved by local government, other producers or anyone else who can DIRECTLY benefit from the workings of the organizations.
To have a free market, you require the ability to engage in commerce, within a particular markets, absent the intervention of a third party.
Then the one who creates the organizations can also create the conditions where 2 or more groups will be competing against each other to devise the best structure and rules for it possible.
You realize how much legal innovation you'd have to do to reach sustainable free markets? We never got to that point before we gave up and started regulating everyone because it was the easy solution.
We don't get rid of competition, just build it in!
by that standard a free market can't exist within a sovereign polity
He gets it.
A true free market needs to be stateless.
Just as unobtainable as "communism".
@Jeremy Why do you think a market is the only, and therefore the best solution?
Just what, exactly, do you believe a market is?
No a true free market requires a state to extract force from the realm of trade
it seems like a weird concept
An INSTITUTION, not a place or a building, where people can trade one kind of goods or services for another.