Whether or not we desire cultural reforms and such.

I'm not condoning racism, I'm explaining it

And I know a solution for it

I think everyone is just too paranoid we're going to declare a final solution, rather than have a reasonable dialogue that doesn't require genocide.

phrasing it as "safe" or "unsafe" or "weak" and shit is a good way to make your ideology sound fucking combative

I doubt that

So, race altogether is avoided as a result.

I never phrased "lack of racism" as a weakness

That's you misinterpreting what I say

Well, ET, that's the historical trend of recognizing racial differences, rather than reforming the culture associated with the race. Thus, you have a fear of discussing race with clear eyes.

I have a fear of people who discuss race, because they like to misintrepret what I say

discussion about race and objective observations between racial divides can be had without making it sound like a fucking conflict

I believe racism can be solved by simply bringing people together, so they learn from direct and personal experiences that the larger group of whatever race they're afraid of is actually benevolent, just as any other racial group

Because just as much as we pick up on outward appearance in a fight or flight situation, we also pick up on it in a safe environment

How does that sound to you now Jokerfaic? Change your mind about how racist I appear to you? Because I hope it does, and I hope you remember that next time we talk.

That is true, but you have the issue of minority groups also becoming hegemonic in some ways, directing popular culture. Take pop and rap culture in America, for example. Sometimes it doesn't always work out that way, especially if you don't take steps to fill the vacuum beforehand.

then where does the "lying or weak" denomination come in?

Yeah it doesn't always work, that's fine

Ah ok

Right

I was honest earlier, and now I'm lying, well fuck you

Does not prove your point

I'm asking you a direct question you whinging bitch

You did several times, and I said you're wrong several times

You always do this, pick selective quotes that prove nothing, because you either take them out of context, or you invent a new context

You LOVE doing this

It's your thing

"People who say they don't see race are **lying or weak**"
I'm asking where that fits in your plan of comingling and understanding

Ok

Ok, very simple

yes, my questions often are

Do you see an obvious skin color difference between these two people?
https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--L4JKUZU0--/c_fill,fl_progressive,g_center,h_900,q_80,w_1600/hdabyny8phsecdwx2xqu.jpg

I'll wait

I observe they are of different skin tones and racial backgrounds, yes, point?

Is one of them white, and one is black? Is that correct?

correct

So you see race, ok

How does that prove that you're a racist?

Are you a racist because you see those differences?

so the difficulty arises from the individual's meaning behind the assertion os *seeing* race,