Message from @ETBrooD

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2019-09-09 07:26:03 UTC  

which frankly is the onus of the individudal making the assertion

2019-09-09 07:26:12 UTC  

You know there's a study showing all races experience adrenaline rush/fight or flight responses when they see a member of another race? I believe this was aired on Through the Wormhole with Morgan Freeman, if my memory serves me just.

2019-09-09 07:26:13 UTC  

You clearly see race

2019-09-09 07:26:19 UTC  

Are you a racist because you see race?

2019-09-09 07:26:21 UTC  

You know what I see in that photo?

2019-09-09 07:26:39 UTC  

The black man is always trying to differentiate himself from the white man by wearing a funky ass suit.

2019-09-09 07:26:47 UTC  

That's just a common behavior I see among blacks, which is a byproduct of their non-conformity.

2019-09-09 07:26:54 UTC  

🤦

2019-09-09 07:26:57 UTC  

Am I racist?

2019-09-09 07:27:03 UTC  

I asked Joker, not you

2019-09-09 07:27:15 UTC  

C'mon, I'm trying to throw some humor into it.

2019-09-09 07:27:26 UTC  

Ok sry <:sargonfingerguns:568463117856669696>

2019-09-09 07:27:46 UTC  

I'm angry that this Joker guy is trying to paint me as a racist because he can't distinguish between seeing race and being a racist

2019-09-09 07:27:55 UTC  

So I'm trying to prove to him that noticing race is not racist

2019-09-09 07:28:39 UTC  

It's a subtle truth I laid out that examples their non-conformity.

2019-09-09 07:28:57 UTC  

the difficulty in communication seems to be what an individual is meaning to convey when they say they do or don't *see* something. I communicate it in a willingness to convey I don't put contextual wieght on it, you communicate it to convey whether or not its physically observed.

2019-09-09 07:28:57 UTC  

Anyway, you two have fun.

2019-09-09 07:29:46 UTC  

Nice dodging the question Joker

2019-09-09 07:29:47 UTC  

neither definition is indididually correct or incorrect, we seem to have simply gone over the other's head

2019-09-09 07:29:57 UTC  

It's always great when you can accuse others of something dishonestly

2019-09-09 07:30:03 UTC  

But when that same argument gets turned on you

2019-09-09 07:30:05 UTC  

You just avoid it

2019-09-09 07:30:36 UTC  

I was identifying where I was wrong in my judgement

2019-09-09 07:30:42 UTC  

You were wrong about me being a racist

2019-09-09 07:30:46 UTC  

yes

2019-09-09 07:30:50 UTC  

Thank you

2019-09-09 07:32:02 UTC  

still, your repetitive reference to things being safe or unsafe or weak didn't help the issue

2019-09-09 07:33:50 UTC  

I don't know how to solve that issue when it concerns the matter of race and racism, because it's so emotionally and culturally and politically loaded in this day

2019-09-09 07:34:01 UTC  

I can't present nuanced arguments anymore without being accused of racism by someone

2019-09-09 07:34:12 UTC  

This didn't use to be the case

2019-09-09 07:35:29 UTC  

well its just needlessly combative laguage. when concerning the establishment of understanding, 'productive' and 'unproductive' are much clearer

2019-09-09 07:36:45 UTC  

though in the very same respect, the term "progressive" is just as unfortunately innappropriate a term for this

2019-09-09 07:37:42 UTC  

I guess maybe

2019-09-09 07:38:11 UTC  

I could be considered progressive in a few ways, too, despite overall being more conservative

2019-09-09 07:39:34 UTC  

its like how I can't say America needs "a party of the people" or a "people's party" if I wish to refer to a party that can accurately represent the democratic mandate of the citizenry

2019-09-09 07:41:00 UTC  

Well about that, I actually think democracy is overrated, when just looking at the justice system for example which is clearly undemocratic, and we're hardly ever questioning it except in specific cases

2019-09-09 07:41:51 UTC  

gotta ask, since again, mixed pol is hard to tell who's from where, referring to UK or US justice system?

2019-09-09 07:43:56 UTC  

Well I was talking more about in general in western countries

2019-09-09 07:44:55 UTC  

I understand legislation is voted for, not just decided by an authority, but the voting process is not exactly a good representation of a truly democratic system. And who knows maybe that's a good thing, I don't know.

2019-09-09 07:45:16 UTC  

Efficiency and "common sense" often trumps democracy, even in a democratic setting

2019-09-09 07:46:28 UTC  

And then there's also the issue that the democratic systems that are in place are not actually truly democratic. Which again, may be a good thing.