Message from @ETBrooD
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which frankly is the onus of the individudal making the assertion
You know there's a study showing all races experience adrenaline rush/fight or flight responses when they see a member of another race? I believe this was aired on Through the Wormhole with Morgan Freeman, if my memory serves me just.
You clearly see race
Are you a racist because you see race?
You know what I see in that photo?
The black man is always trying to differentiate himself from the white man by wearing a funky ass suit.
That's just a common behavior I see among blacks, which is a byproduct of their non-conformity.
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Am I racist?
I asked Joker, not you
C'mon, I'm trying to throw some humor into it.
Ok sry <:sargonfingerguns:568463117856669696>
I'm angry that this Joker guy is trying to paint me as a racist because he can't distinguish between seeing race and being a racist
So I'm trying to prove to him that noticing race is not racist
It's a subtle truth I laid out that examples their non-conformity.
the difficulty in communication seems to be what an individual is meaning to convey when they say they do or don't *see* something. I communicate it in a willingness to convey I don't put contextual wieght on it, you communicate it to convey whether or not its physically observed.
Anyway, you two have fun.
Nice dodging the question Joker
neither definition is indididually correct or incorrect, we seem to have simply gone over the other's head
It's always great when you can accuse others of something dishonestly
You just avoid it
I was identifying where I was wrong in my judgement
You were wrong about me being a racist
yes
Thank you
still, your repetitive reference to things being safe or unsafe or weak didn't help the issue
I don't know how to solve that issue when it concerns the matter of race and racism, because it's so emotionally and culturally and politically loaded in this day
I can't present nuanced arguments anymore without being accused of racism by someone
This didn't use to be the case
well its just needlessly combative laguage. when concerning the establishment of understanding, 'productive' and 'unproductive' are much clearer
though in the very same respect, the term "progressive" is just as unfortunately innappropriate a term for this
I guess maybe
I could be considered progressive in a few ways, too, despite overall being more conservative
its like how I can't say America needs "a party of the people" or a "people's party" if I wish to refer to a party that can accurately represent the democratic mandate of the citizenry
Well about that, I actually think democracy is overrated, when just looking at the justice system for example which is clearly undemocratic, and we're hardly ever questioning it except in specific cases
gotta ask, since again, mixed pol is hard to tell who's from where, referring to UK or US justice system?
Well I was talking more about in general in western countries
I understand legislation is voted for, not just decided by an authority, but the voting process is not exactly a good representation of a truly democratic system. And who knows maybe that's a good thing, I don't know.
Efficiency and "common sense" often trumps democracy, even in a democratic setting
And then there's also the issue that the democratic systems that are in place are not actually truly democratic. Which again, may be a good thing.