Message from @Lucienne d'Anwyl
Discord ID: 617731886084784128
smash the fasch
there were fascists governments tho
and they had mixed economies
lol
nazi germany was as direct of an economy as hitler could reasonably muster in the years that he had
>war economy
the us had a direct economy during the war too
lol
nah dawg
just subsidies
look at italy
"uh dont you know that Nazis and commies both hate free spech so there the same" -Ben Shapiro probably
look at spain
by direct you mean centrally planned?
yes
a mixed nationalized economy is pretty normal for fascist nations, generally some form of corporate syndicalism
ok
which is exactly what china has
so...
in nazi germany, it was "you have private ownership, buttttttt"
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"if you dont directly support the fuhrer in the way we tell you, you're an enemy of the state"
that being said china still has communistic influences
china is ultranationalistic, expansionist, cracks down on human rights and has a corporate syndicate economy, which makes them fairly objectively fascist
you wouldnt want to have personal property if it meant youre taking away from the nation right
not ultranationalistic
they are imperialist
the only real "communist" influence left is in their aesthetics and in a few members of their government
and dont mind doing business in the global economy
in fact, they *prefer* it
fascist nations also did business on the global economy, they simply handled international trade through large corporate / governmental institutions, which... china does...
corporatism isn't too far off from socialism tbh
depends very heavil on which brand of socialism we're talking about here
Marxism-Leninism? yea, basically corporate syndicalism. but platformist socialism like anarcho-socialism, espoused by the likes of Bakhunin and Kropotkin, is a *far* cry from corporatism.
any brand of socialism that isn't a purely theoretical meme
anarcho socialism is meaningless
epic