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2019-10-17 13:02:03 UTC  

Those tariffs Trump put on China are beneficial to them

2019-10-17 13:02:24 UTC  

Yeah, good luck replacing the european and US market with African shitholes

2019-10-17 13:02:29 UTC  

Chinese goods are 95% created in China, shipped to Vietnam, that last 5% is added and then they're shopped abroad, tariff free

2019-10-17 13:03:04 UTC  

Maybe in 50 years

2019-10-17 13:03:16 UTC  

They're not replacing the US markets

2019-10-17 13:03:22 UTC  

They sill operating within them, as before

2019-10-17 13:03:29 UTC  

They're expanding into European markets

2019-10-17 13:03:44 UTC  

Expanding in to South American markets, African ones, Middle Eastern ones, Oceania, etc

2019-10-17 13:04:07 UTC  

The belt and road initiative aims to expand Chinese reach around the globe

2019-10-17 13:04:10 UTC  

Doesn't change the fact, that without US and EU markets, they'd collapse

2019-10-17 13:04:23 UTC  

Doesn't change the fact that those markets aren't going away

2019-10-17 13:04:36 UTC  

Without air we'd die. What kind of stupid statement is that lmao

2019-10-17 13:05:01 UTC  

It's fully up the US and EU whether they'll keep buying chineese

2019-10-17 13:05:12 UTC  

It *was*.

2019-10-17 13:05:14 UTC  

Now it's not

2019-10-17 13:05:26 UTC  

Because China is in the European and American political system

2019-10-17 13:05:48 UTC  

Either outright buying off politicians, bribing them, using their economic influence in that country to get policy pushed through, etc.

2019-10-17 13:05:49 UTC  

Yeah, and the people can vote for kicking them out any time

2019-10-17 13:05:56 UTC  

They've already done this against the EU

2019-10-17 13:06:21 UTC  

France proposed banning foreign investment in strategic sectors, the Chinese simply got the Portugese to veto it

2019-10-17 13:08:36 UTC  

Only France and Germany truly matter.

2019-10-17 13:09:02 UTC  

If they _really_ start to care, they'll do what they set out to do

2019-10-17 13:09:27 UTC  

if it means sidestepping the EU, they'll have no problem doing that

2019-10-17 13:09:45 UTC  

they done it multiple times tbh

2019-10-17 13:10:00 UTC  

There's just a taste of what they've done in the UK.

2019-10-17 13:10:33 UTC  

>Energy sector

2019-10-17 13:10:38 UTC  

I can show you what they're doing in Australia

2019-10-17 13:10:49 UTC  

They own 1 / 3 of all drinking water companies for one

2019-10-17 13:11:11 UTC  

And? Yes, they invest here.
Like it matters. Do you think the UK gave a shit that a powerplant was owned by a german when WW2 started?

2019-10-17 13:11:20 UTC  

"Like it matters"

2019-10-17 13:11:23 UTC  

It does matter..

2019-10-17 13:11:30 UTC  

Becuase that gives them political influence in the country

2019-10-17 13:11:41 UTC  

They get a say in how politics is ran

2019-10-17 13:11:47 UTC  

They get a say in how legislation is formed

2019-10-17 13:11:52 UTC  

What goes in, or doesn't

2019-10-17 13:11:52 UTC  

it's an obstacle, and not all that great one

2019-10-17 13:11:58 UTC  

tbh we need to make the whole world adapt some laws regarding chinese owned companies, otherwise the yellow death is basically imminent regardless of what we try to do about it

2019-10-17 13:11:59 UTC  

hah.. they have 100% stake in pizza express... didnt that company just go into administration?