Message from @Nathan James 123

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2019-10-17 12:59:38 UTC  

Going to pull the old "They're going to collapse in 10 years" meme argument?

2019-10-17 12:59:46 UTC  

Just like the Yanks use against the EU?

2019-10-17 12:59:56 UTC  

If EU and US were willing to tough it out, they could bring China down pretty quickly by imposing sanctions

2019-10-17 13:00:06 UTC  

The EU and the US aren't together

2019-10-17 13:00:15 UTC  

EU politics is already being influenced by China

2019-10-17 13:00:16 UTC  

China still is and for some time will be dependant on exports

2019-10-17 13:00:32 UTC  

They're just creating new markets <:pot_of_kek:544849795433496586>

2019-10-17 13:00:55 UTC  

Basically everything America has done against China has aided China

2019-10-17 13:01:31 UTC  

so if the US actually aids china will that hurt it?<:thunk:462282216467333140>

2019-10-17 13:01:50 UTC  

<:Doubt:588038713938804760>

2019-10-17 13:02:03 UTC  

Those tariffs Trump put on China are beneficial to them

2019-10-17 13:02:24 UTC  

Yeah, good luck replacing the european and US market with African shitholes

2019-10-17 13:02:29 UTC  

Chinese goods are 95% created in China, shipped to Vietnam, that last 5% is added and then they're shopped abroad, tariff free

2019-10-17 13:03:04 UTC  

Maybe in 50 years

2019-10-17 13:03:16 UTC  

They're not replacing the US markets

2019-10-17 13:03:22 UTC  

They sill operating within them, as before

2019-10-17 13:03:29 UTC  

They're expanding into European markets

2019-10-17 13:03:44 UTC  

Expanding in to South American markets, African ones, Middle Eastern ones, Oceania, etc

2019-10-17 13:04:07 UTC  

The belt and road initiative aims to expand Chinese reach around the globe

2019-10-17 13:04:10 UTC  

Doesn't change the fact, that without US and EU markets, they'd collapse

2019-10-17 13:04:23 UTC  

Doesn't change the fact that those markets aren't going away

2019-10-17 13:04:36 UTC  

Without air we'd die. What kind of stupid statement is that lmao

2019-10-17 13:05:01 UTC  

It's fully up the US and EU whether they'll keep buying chineese

2019-10-17 13:05:12 UTC  

It *was*.

2019-10-17 13:05:14 UTC  

Now it's not

2019-10-17 13:05:26 UTC  

Because China is in the European and American political system

2019-10-17 13:05:48 UTC  

Either outright buying off politicians, bribing them, using their economic influence in that country to get policy pushed through, etc.

2019-10-17 13:05:49 UTC  

Yeah, and the people can vote for kicking them out any time

2019-10-17 13:05:56 UTC  

They've already done this against the EU

2019-10-17 13:06:21 UTC  

France proposed banning foreign investment in strategic sectors, the Chinese simply got the Portugese to veto it

2019-10-17 13:08:36 UTC  

Only France and Germany truly matter.

2019-10-17 13:09:02 UTC  

If they _really_ start to care, they'll do what they set out to do

2019-10-17 13:09:27 UTC  

if it means sidestepping the EU, they'll have no problem doing that

2019-10-17 13:09:45 UTC  

they done it multiple times tbh

2019-10-17 13:10:00 UTC  

There's just a taste of what they've done in the UK.

2019-10-17 13:10:33 UTC  

>Energy sector

2019-10-17 13:10:38 UTC  

I can show you what they're doing in Australia

2019-10-17 13:10:49 UTC  

They own 1 / 3 of all drinking water companies for one