@Seven Proxies That's also a fair argument to make, increase in homelessness/suicides also..

more complicated than that

But yes, China...

ubermench, more complicated

SP you can't just name a career and then act like it's invalid cuz you don't think it's a "real" career

@ManAnimal In what way? All I see in China is that they manage to outcompete in certain markets due to basically shitting all over working conditions and salary levels of their labourers in comparison to the west.

where china is concerned, the supppliers are no longer under the same umbrella as the consumers

Remember if you don’t bend over ass backwards to get balls deep no lube fucked in the ass to corporations, you’re a communist cuck

Professional blogger/youtuber has become a legitimate profession despite how silly it might seem

that is always bad and always destroys the bargaining power of workers

@ManAnimal really? Why are they trying to get self driving trucks then?

they havebeen 'trying' for decades

and they will continue to 'try'

@TheBadfish Only insofar as it jerks off the narrative, deviation will see you on the streets.

And getting pretty close to it.

YT is like TV just a app on your phone or computer. Using internet instead of cable, plus your phone is a mini TV anyway

you say that but I am subbed to several people with quite varying opinions

Who frequently disagree

"with side jobs" likely

systems like self-driving cars, maglev and flying cars aren't impossible when it comes to technical obstacles

I have some also

So if you think a YTer is not a real job you have to consider that maybe TV jobs aren’t real jobs

those systems aren't fielded due to ECONOMIC issues regarding liability

@TheBadfish I'm not "invalidating" it per se. But I would argue that in order for something to qualify as a job, then there has to be a tangible and predictable NEED in society for it. It has to fulfil a kind of function that society can't do without.

I don't think e-begging fulfils any vital function. And as far as that market goes, it's well over-saturated as it is. It doesn't have much room for more people to make a living off of it.

they just can't be done economically

they centralize far too much of the liability

Not e-begging with no cause, but I would argue that many YTers (at least the ones I listen to/donate to) provide critical news and analysis which is a need for many people

technical elements of any program are never the largest sources of cost

@Snake Well in a sense, they're not.

Right now they might be jobs. Even being a youtuber. But think for a moment of the co-dependency of various industries that enables these jobs to actually create value.

Why do youtubers make money?

Why does adertisement make money?

There's a difference between a hole putting sad pics on gofundme asking for tit surgery, and someone who builds a brand around news/analysis/commentary

people give alot of shit away too

memes are an expression of that

so is the whole internet business model

none of us paid for a discord account or gmail

why not?

Ironic, listening to Tim Pool talking about his deviation from the narrative right now and how it'll be fine if/when he will have to live in a fucking van, dude is 33 years old, should be worried more about a family and putting money in his children's tuition fund- yet here we are.

that isn't capitalism

@ManAnimal No, but we're not the customers of gmail or discord. We're their product.

correct