doesnt matter how free you are bud.

It's not a black and white issue

Either freedom or order, no

You can have both

you can but order must come first

Why?

hard to run a business in a warzone... in a society that isnt cohesive. has mass homelessness and violence

War = freedom?

because he's a noble savage with a guilty conscience, clearly

gonna find it quite hard to climb the social ladder

Homelessness and violence = freedom?

i am for the removal of religion from the state
but think about the most basic of human nature when implimenting your "liberation" plans

Are you seriously saying that?

if the dynamics of your social order are allowed to change

RADICALLY

not just a slight change

but a radical change

What if you're wrong and these things are not a result of freedom?

Im not. and its not just freedom itself

How do you know you're right?

you are thinking im monocausal

as if i think all freedom leads to butt sex

common now...

Then use different examples

You mentioned drag queen story hour

That was your first example

i said it earlier but perhaps you didnt see

liberal democracy + free market = 2k19 shitshow

now how to fix this.... is up for debate.

you can possibly have one without the other but... idk

How do you know this shitshow is a result of democracy and free market?

because they compound upon each other

How?

its a cycle of the corporations using money to influence the democracy

in a variety of ways

Corporations brought Trump into power?

which leads to atomization. and importation of an electorate that is more socialist

as they are easier to control

I think the results say otherwise

and partly.. well trump is complicated

the issue is that trump is a rouge element