you don't need religion to be able to say, for example, sex and minors don't mix

Indeed.

You don't need religion to say that stealing and murder are bad.

we can observe the results and determine that its negative

All religion did was to give stupid people something to fear, so they'd fall in line.

what about things they do that is so relatively new there is no data to suggest its massively harmful yet

as is the case with gender transitioning

well by that standard you have nothing to back up that its harmful either, no one can predict the fucking future

yes goodwood and we need it again to combat this new thing the stupid are latching onto <:pepelaugh:544857300179877898> imo

Easy. Fact-based honest scientific and philosophical testing.

and yeah, we actually can see transitioning is harmful in suicide rates

imo joker

in a sane society itd be outlawed period

lol

Fuck you very much, John Money.

no, in a fucking paranoid and scared society it would be before it was tried

lol

sure man whatever you say

@Goodwood of Dank™ I like how you added "easy" to the scientific testing thingy
In 2019
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Kek.

>no, in a fucking paranoid and scared society it would be before it was tried
Have you ever been so open minded that your brain fell out?

you try something, it doesn't work out, you put it away, and try something else.

It's pretty self evident that with the rare exception of people who have chromosomal defects that hormonal intervention is a bad idea.

I agree

So.... it should be illegal for a doctors and "health care professionals" to convince children that they need to transition

yes

yea and im sure just saying its self evident to these people will convince them all to stop thinking this way

now that we know this shit doesn't work

and the propaganda

and all that shiz

I didn't need to sterilize little TImmy and make him Timantha to know that manipulating someone's hormonal profile and inverting their genitals is a barbaric practice

they deny it even after it takes place. hence why a lot of them commit suicide

cant handle the cognitive dissonance

but yk joker is right. itd be a scared and paranoid society that doesnt allow them to try and yk.. hey all those suicides its science man

shit happens

Solve et Coagula

when oppenheimer and co were developing the atom bomb they thought it might ignite the global atmosphere and destroy the world. I guess we should have just risked a bloody and likely worse outcome by invading the japanese mainland

thats a false equivocation

you just agreed earlier that it was self-evident that transitioning isnt good

You can justify literally anything with your reasoning in the name of science lol

yes, because the data bears it out