Message from @pwtdo
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This is not okay, why the fuck do our education and prison programs look so similar.
If I had to guess, it's because for-profit prisons want more inmates in their cells, so they lobby for things like mandatory minimum sentencing and treating students like prisoners.
i can think of scenarios where such a room would be necessary. some kids are completely feral, and their parents (more often parent) are usually the cause of it.
if the kid is not going to listen to anything you say, is making it completely impossible to teach, and the parent is unwilling/unable to come get them, what do you do?
can't touch them in the slightest without the teacher facing a potential lawsuit.
even physically dragging them to this room is risky from a legal standpoint.
obviously it shouldn't be used for everything, and the example of spilling milk is so extreme as to make me doubt the veracity of that claim, but there are cases where simply wagging a finger at the kid and speaking sternly isn't going to do shit.
Like, why not just expell students that don't behave? I almost got expelled from secondary school just because I missed out a few classes.
i don't really know how it works, but perhaps expelling students makes the school's performance rating decline, jeopardizing funding.
And by almost I mean I was a few missed classes away from expulsion, but on purpose (why not use up the ones I have left)?
Man, fuck money.
there might also be a civil rights lawsuit in expelling someone
That's the problem.
depending on the state
they can just claim their feral monster is disabled somehow
I mean I get it, if a kid is throwing a tantrum the. The best thing you can do is say if you want to be treated like an adult you need to act like an adult and then ignore them until the can speak calmly. But obviously this has been getting used as a go to punishment because it's seen as "non harmful" to kids. Which it is if it is only used when it's necessary.
if it's obviously being abused, that's a problem. but realistically i think such a facility makes sense.
because you can't have some screeching violent little shit stopping everyone else from learning
Having a specified room for it is kinda bullshit tho, it shouldn't be so common a punishment that it can't make do with the odd empty classroom
the problem there is that the child can hurt themselves with whatever is in the classroom, and the faculty is responsible.
and they don't have the spare faculty to waste babysitting the little shit
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They can fucking wait it out in the hallways.
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even if they did babysit them, what can you do to stop them from destroying shit? can't touch them.
put them in the hallway and they'll just start roaming around destroying shit and barging into other classes.
you guys need to think of worst case scenarios here, because they happen more often than you'd think
@pwtdo There's a solution for people who don't take that calmly, and it's called "fuck you, we're done".
some of these kids are worse than monkeys
If they're that much of a little shit then I'd be happy to get some precedence that the parents are responsible not the school
Just chuck them out.
you can't chuck them out. civil rights.
Fuc their rights.
we've created, piece by piece, and impossible scenario
Your right to education cannot be upheld if you're a prick
Therefore, being a prick voids your right to education.
It's that fucking simple.
tell that to the ACLU and all the lefty lawyers salivating at the prospect of suing your school district
Tell that to Trump and get him to pass a fucking executive if you think you can't deal with those spergs.
"nationwide injunction" says the hawaiian judge