That's the other thing, we need to take the high ground and point out that migration is more than just economics. Sovereignty is the biggest one for me.

keeping the social contract intact is important. we cant have people coming over setting up little mexicos

Mostly, conservatives suck at arguing with leftists cuz they don't understand the subtle art of persuasion or leftist values.

heres all the leftist arguments

@Marushia Dark when you start to talk about sovereignty the left will attack you as a nationalist and then connect the dots to white nationalist, even if you are not. which wont make anyone agree with you. I have talked to many individuals on the left who connect those dots just like that

"muh gdp" , "muh morals/refugees" , "muh racism"

thats about it really

id say bad move, we need another way

Tell them Hitler was a nationalist in name only, that he was actually an imperialist and that the opposite of nationalism is colonialism

fuck them

lol

they wont listen

waste of time

im blackpilled af tho... lately

They will if you put it to them the right way. I know cuz I used to be one of them. I know they can change cuz I did.

@Marushia Dark the goal is to convert as many as possible in the middle into libertarians, which is extremely logical. it works on college campuses, it works in real life as well. many normies figure that out.

People like Dave Rubin walking away should be an inspiration to you, Scott

then it just comes to the lesser of two evisl and they vote republican after that

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dave rubin

pfft please

@Brue I used to be a full on Maoist briefly

libertarianism is part of the problem

thats what people dont get

libertarian nationalism

the two aren't incompatible

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@Marushia Dark the first steps are libertarianism

always

you do not sway people overnight

long amounts of time

i applaud you for trying i guess... but you dont want to work people into a libertarian mindset that they cant get out of. its part of what caused this mess. the whole live and let live mentality

we let the left gain so much ground... the response is not to continue letting them gain it

Why, what are you if not libertarian? Libertarian is the only morally and logically consistent worldview

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Let me put it this way. If we had a libertarian society, then mass migration wouldn't be as much of a problem, since they can vote for the left, but if the State has no power, who cares?

@UnScottable yes yes, conservatism is bad, we need radical change, but this starts with destroying the moderates of the democrat party

no if the state has no powers they just cross the border dude...

which we can do through libertarianism

which is whats happened for 50+ years

I mean things like taxation or censorship.