Message from @whiic

Discord ID: 641094634931748864


2019-11-05 01:49:09 UTC  

Already did

2019-11-05 01:49:27 UTC  

The "Principle" part of NAP is what JF disagrees on

2019-11-05 01:49:30 UTC  

And so does whiic

2019-11-05 01:49:46 UTC  

So again I ask, why is whiic advocating for his own death?

2019-11-05 01:52:54 UTC  

How do you get from one to the other? I mean I think that the sky is blue, JF (might) agree there. This hardly means I am advocating for my own death....

2019-11-05 01:53:45 UTC  

Scroll up

2019-11-05 01:54:28 UTC  

I've been peeking in off and on. It seems to be something you just started asserting for no reason.

2019-11-05 01:56:24 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/633967335614447636/641093426003181588/unknown.png

2019-11-05 01:57:50 UTC  

Also, I'm pretty sure such open death threats/wishing violence go against Discord TOS

2019-11-05 01:57:56 UTC  

Yeah, after you said JFG rejects NAP.

2019-11-05 01:58:20 UTC  

And my position is that everyone who outright rejects NAP having any value, should be treated as an outlaw.

2019-11-05 01:58:40 UTC  

Even you reject the NAP unless you are Ancap

2019-11-05 01:58:49 UTC  

I don't reject it.

2019-11-05 01:58:51 UTC  

The main part is "Principle"

2019-11-05 01:58:57 UTC  

I just don't think it's absolute.

2019-11-05 01:59:03 UTC  

Why are you so autistic?

2019-11-05 01:59:18 UTC  

You're going against NAP by being anti open borders

2019-11-05 01:59:41 UTC  

Which is also JF's stance, he doesn't take it as an absolute principle

2019-11-05 02:00:02 UTC  

So if that is your criteria of advocating for death of someone, you are also advocating for your own death

2019-11-05 02:00:40 UTC  

I do not see how that follows. JF has made numerous (retarded) statements about evolution. I believe in evolution and have been studying it for a few years. One could assume JF also believes in evolution. And yet I find all of his conclusions laughably wrong.

2019-11-05 02:01:11 UTC  

Well, maybe it should be called NAV (non-aggression value) for those who don't hold it as the only value and absolute and only principle in life (i.e the ancap autists)?

2019-11-05 02:01:22 UTC  

But no-one knows what "NAV" is.

2019-11-05 02:01:47 UTC  

Hence, I prefer to call it NAP even if I don't view it as **absolute and only** principle in life.

2019-11-05 02:02:02 UTC  

Because people know what NAP is, but they don't know what NAV is.

2019-11-05 02:02:03 UTC  

Then its just a semantics issue

2019-11-05 02:02:52 UTC  

Heck people know what NAV it's and it's avionics terminology related to airplane navigation system.

2019-11-05 02:04:59 UTC  

Don't ask more. I don't know. With NAV, NDB, CAS, glideslope indicators, runway beacons, ILS, etc. there's too many to keep track on.

2019-11-05 02:05:48 UTC  

Heck I might actually know how some of those work. I just don't know how NAV mode on autopilots work. GPS navigation I get.

2019-11-05 02:07:07 UTC  

This is the reason why I fly VFR when I fly FSX. Instrument navigation (IFR) in instrument meteorological conditions (IMC) where you cannot see what's ahead of you is a bitch.

2019-11-05 02:37:19 UTC  

not sure how many of you have arrived here from the wreckage of the atheist/secular movement, but I'd be curious about your thoughts on this: https://slatestarcodex.com/2019/10/30/new-atheism-the-godlessness-that-failed/

2019-11-05 02:43:09 UTC  

I like SSC but I can't relate. Movement Atheism never appealed to me at best I found it a disappointing distraction. People I admired like Dawkins writing long useless books about "god no reals" instead of doing serious work.

2019-11-05 02:45:05 UTC  

I'm "here" because of GamerGate. That is, that what created Sargon.

2019-11-05 02:46:44 UTC  

I don't think godlessness failed. But the institutions were set up as an antagonist to Christian conservatives, which made them atheist progressives by being the negative image of that they opposed: communists, socialists, feminists (ironically because feminism has Christian roots).

2019-11-05 02:46:56 UTC  

GG was a lot of fun. If anyone can find a mirror of the old 3Dog hangouts hit me up. Oliver made them private a while back....

2019-11-05 02:47:37 UTC  

Atheist progressivism was set to fail because it opposed Christian conservativism in both economic and social issues, and USA is a bipolar system where you always have to pick between cancer and AIDS.

2019-11-05 02:49:10 UTC  

Atheist activism had it's roots in 1st Amendment constitutionalism, ironically.

2019-11-05 02:50:38 UTC  

They just kept on attaching various other agendas into it, and making it hegemonic opposite to evangelical conservativism.

2019-11-05 02:51:22 UTC  

Freedom *of* religion =/= freedom *from* religion. The former is the US position the latter is the French.

2019-11-05 02:51:42 UTC  

So it's OK to be religious but you could be jailed for being irreligious?

2019-11-05 02:52:03 UTC  

The evangelocon argument to bringing Christian rules to court houses.

2019-11-05 02:52:21 UTC  

Basically, free to be Christian, but no freedom to be not Christian.