Message from @Arrias

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2019-11-05 18:01:59 UTC  

Are you going to dodge the question?=

2019-11-05 18:02:00 UTC  

because natural selection should have eliminated you by now

2019-11-05 18:02:08 UTC  

So you're going to dodge the question then?

2019-11-05 18:02:11 UTC  

not at all

2019-11-05 18:02:15 UTC  

Go ahead then

2019-11-05 18:02:36 UTC  

something supernatural is something that defies our understanding of the natural world

2019-11-05 18:02:44 UTC  

this can be because we don't understand it yet

2019-11-05 18:02:48 UTC  

No, not true

2019-11-05 18:03:19 UTC  

but if we observed something like a ghost or spirit it would be "supernatural"

2019-11-05 18:03:23 UTC  

beyond the natural order

2019-11-05 18:03:23 UTC  

Wrong

2019-11-05 18:03:37 UTC  

Ghost sightings belong in the realm of the paranormal, not the supernatural

2019-11-05 18:03:48 UTC  

I explained this in great length in the last debate I had with whiic

2019-11-05 18:04:09 UTC  

The supernatural is an event or thing that is *impossible* to be explained using natural means

2019-11-05 18:04:18 UTC  

Literally impossible, you can't explain it no matter what

2019-11-05 18:04:26 UTC  

The paranormal however can be explained

2019-11-05 18:05:10 UTC  

This is why it's in the Christian teaching that trying to explain God is blasphemy

2019-11-05 18:05:20 UTC  

wat

2019-11-05 18:05:26 UTC  

lol

2019-11-05 18:05:29 UTC  

Yes, we're taught the we cannot understand God

2019-11-05 18:05:46 UTC  

that doesn't mean you can try to explain God

2019-11-05 18:06:13 UTC  

saying something is beyond our complete comprehension does not mean, "every facet is beyond comprehension"

2019-11-05 18:06:24 UTC  

But that's the definition of the supernatural

2019-11-05 18:06:31 UTC  

That you cannot use natural means to explain it

2019-11-05 18:06:35 UTC  

Therefore it's impossible

2019-11-05 18:06:44 UTC  

You can't explain it no matter how hard you try

2019-11-05 18:06:48 UTC  

and?

2019-11-05 18:06:57 UTC  

That means that things like ghost sightings are not supernatural

2019-11-05 18:07:01 UTC  

They're paranormal

2019-11-05 18:07:12 UTC  

and?

2019-11-05 18:07:13 UTC  

This is why atheists can believe in ghosts

2019-11-05 18:07:21 UTC  

holy fuck you're stupid

2019-11-05 18:07:22 UTC  

lol

2019-11-05 18:07:27 UTC  

No I'm laying out the argument

2019-11-05 18:07:33 UTC  

Tell me where I got this wrong

2019-11-05 18:07:35 UTC  

ok, let's try this from another direction

2019-11-05 18:07:46 UTC  

I don't believe in a higher power exists

2019-11-05 18:07:48 UTC  

I have only about 2-3 more minutes though so yeah

2019-11-05 18:08:08 UTC  

I believe that when a person dies there is something that is left behind

2019-11-05 18:08:13 UTC  

a force/spirit/we

2019-11-05 18:08:25 UTC  

are those contradictory statements?