the right is willing to come to the table

ideally i would like a unified anti-liberal front

June, I'm trying to lessen that divide, but further radicalizing and talk of race realism works against that. You've got bad optics and are pushing them further left

The dems are the progressive train that never ends, the republicans are basically just relief from that. Dont reverse anything, just take a breather

@Marushia Dark ive tried being kind, that's not all it takes. These people need to be deprogrammed

@Marushia Dark I don't want to sacrifice truth for tactics

i don't mean lessen the divide in the sense of making them less radical

Uber, I'm not asking you to lie down and take it, just like Gandhi didn't lie down and accept oppression. He fought, but from the higher ground

The next election and the 8 years after trump are gonna be the do or die element here

If we don't win then say goodbye

But maybe we have a different idea of what race realism means

If you’re willing to give in to ethnocentric ideals, you’ve already lost that which makes America great.

Either a) You’ve already lost to the leftists
Or b) You can fight back and defeat the leftists on the founding principles.

There is no option c)

well when it comes to discussions like these i'm not really interested in lying or being moderately dishonest

I'm not an ethno nationalist for the entirety of a state

though for propaganda dishonesty is fine

I predict that Trump will win, and I want him to win, but I also predict the far left will become violent if he does

but white people should remain the majority in the country

Im not either, my ideals are with @Marushia Dark

ethnocentrism was a large part in what made america good

(That’s an ethnocentric belief)

But the facts mean that can't be the case

I want people who value freedom and human rights to be the majority, regardless of skin color

Why try to change peoples minds when you can just import voters?

@Marushia Dark Ya crazy how that idea promulgated on the back of white people and now those same white people are being threatened with being eroded away

in terms of founding principles america has been completely against them since the 60's, and against them to a large extent since the late 19th century

something tells me not all people agree with that presumption Marushia

america was supposed to be a country of free white men of good character

Uber, I am fighting a war on two fronts here against identitarians on BOTH sides. This same fervor we're arguing with I bring to the radical left too

@Marushia Dark I do too, bit the reality is white people clearly care more than other races

it was not supposed to be a melting pot of degenerate wage slaves and lumpenproles

That's not an identity issue, it's the truth

Idealism only gets you so far

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JC4aC21OyDE&t=700s 1:16 Emperor Palpatine voices Satan. Eargasm.

"identitarians"

I don't care if whites make 100% or 1%, to me that has nothing to do with the quality of the actual people in the country or what they think, do, and believe. I'm not saying whites should suffer anymore than anyone should

only one being an identitarian here is you

buddy

the fact that people seem to think the spirit of america is embodied by deracinated plutocratic capitalism boggles my mind

@Marushia Dark I agree, I just think that "whites" will naturally be closer to 100%

"freedom and human rights" are western values not human values

I still argue there isn't a reason to deradicalize the enemy unless they're someone you know on a personal level irl