Message from @UnScottable

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2019-10-22 01:25:30 UTC  

Its just fearmongering

2019-10-22 01:25:56 UTC  

We should care because they are other humans, but, on top of that it will eventually come back to effect us. It's not as if the whole world destabilizes, or half of the world, even just 1/10th, that it won't effect us

2019-10-22 01:25:59 UTC  

You have me confused. I am not saying "should' I am answering 'why'. From a national interest perspective there is a good argument to leave and let them kill each other. The only problem with that is that it leaves Russia in charge of Europe (if they want to keep the lights on).

2019-10-22 01:26:29 UTC  

There is a good chance of the various wars spreading

2019-10-22 01:26:44 UTC  

Just look at say, the immigration crisis in Europe, that has been pretty bad, and that's not even the spread of war itself

2019-10-22 01:27:00 UTC  

The consequences won't be confined to a specific geographic space just beucase the problems originate from there

2019-10-22 01:27:11 UTC  

There's no reason to believe they will just stay there and not go other places, be it to wage war or otherwise

2019-10-22 01:27:12 UTC  

1. I dnt care because they are savages. Hardly human. 2. I do not buy that it will effect us if we leave. Its effecting us by us staying

2019-10-22 01:27:30 UTC  

It's not very expensive to maintain a small troop presence, or costly in terms of lives

2019-10-22 01:28:04 UTC  

We didn't lose a single soldier the whole time they were in that region, but now if we have to do a reinvasion to keep a lid on things we will

2019-10-22 01:28:06 UTC  

Also letting Russia pull strings over europe cant be any worse then what the EU is up to.

2019-10-22 01:28:11 UTC  

We did lose a few soldiers in some anti ISIS stuff though

2019-10-22 01:28:19 UTC  

We lost our hard earned tax dollars

2019-10-22 01:28:20 UTC  

Not really that particular region but it's connected

2019-10-22 01:28:20 UTC  

millions

2019-10-22 01:28:25 UTC  

you act as if them standing around is free dude

2019-10-22 01:28:27 UTC  

It's not all that expensive to maintain it

2019-10-22 01:28:42 UTC  

What we need is for more troops to be on our southern border

2019-10-22 01:28:45 UTC  

In comparison to a larger war. But generally speaking military spending has a net positive impact on the economy

2019-10-22 01:28:45 UTC  

Yes the problems will spread. However we do not give a fuck. Because our borders are; Mexico, Canada, fish, and fish.

2019-10-22 01:29:04 UTC  

We can spend 6 trillion in the middle east in a span of 6 years dude.

2019-10-22 01:29:05 UTC  

Let's say Europe falls right, that will effect us, so then we are by proxy effected by that

2019-10-22 01:29:12 UTC  

yet we cant build a 25 billion dollar wall

2019-10-22 01:29:22 UTC  

that has nothing to do with the middle east obviously

2019-10-22 01:29:24 UTC  

It's all political

2019-10-22 01:29:37 UTC  

The left won't fund the law, as you need more votes to fund a law but not neccessarily to pass a law

2019-10-22 01:29:37 UTC  

Just goes to show you what our politicians priorities are.

2019-10-22 01:29:41 UTC  

It's a political tactic

2019-10-22 01:29:43 UTC  

Well it's the left

2019-10-22 01:29:50 UTC  

And making excuses for us to keep spending money over there... doesnt help.

2019-10-22 01:29:55 UTC  

But if we pull out of the middle east it's not as if hteir minds will change on the border

2019-10-22 01:30:02 UTC  

They will still not want to fund it

2019-10-22 01:30:25 UTC  

Imports are 12-15% of USGDP (depending on how you measure it) 2/3rds of that are in N. America. If Europe falls it would be a smaller hit than the mortgage crisis.

2019-10-22 01:30:35 UTC  

My idea has always been like some form of external funding like, some group builds it saying they'll build the whole wall for 1 dollar, but that company just builds it no matter what the price will be

2019-10-22 01:30:43 UTC  

6 trillion dollars in the middle east, sorry but I think its time we start reprioritizing.

2019-10-22 01:30:52 UTC  

Exports are really the issue, we make a lot of money by selling stuff to the rest of the world

2019-10-22 01:31:06 UTC  

The israelis have tons of money from us and arms. They can handle the region if they so choose

2019-10-22 01:31:25 UTC  

Our largest export is machinery and pumps ie. capital goods.

2019-10-22 01:31:28 UTC  

Same with europe. We are involved in NATO. If anything goes down we will show up to save their asses... dont you worry

2019-10-22 01:31:30 UTC  

in the meantime...

2019-10-22 01:31:35 UTC  

We need to focus on our homeland