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@Jokerfaic i would argue that it applies to any group that we treated like shit just for existing, there's obviously different things that can be done for different groups

I'd say a better analogy is your great great great grandfather walked into a bar, there's a bar fight going on so he joins in and wins, wiping the floor with the rest of them, now the great great great grandsons of the people your ancestors beat up want your money and land

once again, congress is just sitting on land being used for absolutely nothing. Modern day blacks can go piss in the wind about their reparations, but natives we can functionally make some minor ammends for

I mean for fucks sake they might as well be in zoos as it is

its the only geographical context I can think of the word "reservation" being used for that doesn't specifically refer to animals or plant life

Not really the case because there have been instances of large scale discrimination up until like maybe a generation ago @Dubdogelmo (+ there is no “bar” where the people fought in the first place, it was someone’s house if we go with the analogy), my personal solutions to this wouldn’t last any more than like 1 to 2 generations anyway (so basically the people directly and indirectly affected by being born of the affected people, tho I mean the reservations arnt a bad idea ontop of that as well)

not saying just give them territory that currently belongs to the states, fuck that, that ship sailed before anyone alive today was a nucleic acid chain. But I don't think you're quite understanding the sentence ``"congress is currently sitting on a fuck ton of unused land"``

that's not even including the old Nevada Atomic Test Sites

Well we already have the reservations, but my main focus is on what other things could have been done, it’s not just about giving people fucking land

I used a bar to show that the natives were all fighting each other but that'd be a bit odd in a house

if there's a generation of pampered, spoiled, well-to-do, genuinely tribally-descended natives pissing their britches about huwite priviledge or some shit, I'd like to see it

And I mean over shit that can be proven false like systematic oppression or some shit. Trail of tears fucking happened, but that's a tad beyond fixing anyway

No one's talking about giving Texas back to Mexico

I'm talking about land, unused, and owned not-in-perpetuity by congress, and people who by today's demographics might as well be endangered

not a freebie either, it can be leased or sold for some sort of concession

a minor thing

maybe a sort of revenue tax on production, a fraction of a percent sort of thing

for a set period of course

then, who knows

I’m not talking about how people bitch to much or about that land, I’ll just give you an idea of what I would do, so for people directly affected who as a result have dropped into poverty should receive montary compensation, then their kids (so now the second generation) should get education benefits. Then slap on a few reservations (tho this only applies to indigenous inhabitants) and that’s it

I may not know the best way, but I know the Worst way: Just giving them Gibs and a "Lol, sorry"

okay, you're seriously missing the point, thats taking away from people who haven't harmed them, and I'm saying there should be a mutual transaction between natives and congress without artificially priviledging anybody

Also, citizens shouldn't be held accountable for the Government's actions

in a republic governed by elected representatives, that logic has a few holes in it

I had one relative that fought in the War of 1812

*French and Indian War

Since it was the South, the Govt was just like "Hey, Farmer that can't read, Take Musket and Shoot Redskin for Pennies and Whiskey" with the Southerners not really knowing 'Why'

And, because, they couldn't read

That's excessively reductivist and disrespectful even for a northern poof like me

Similar to today, the poor people fought while the Rich didn't

I mean, sure, but the rich aren't...... well I mean congress isn't...... corporations don't............................................

How did you out-"eat the rich" me?

**ME!!!!!**

Being a Southerner, understanding mindset of the Average CSA Soldier during the Civil War has given perspective on how a lot of issues are Class Based instead of Race Based

The Average CSA Soldier didn't really give a damn about Slavery; That was the Rich Plantation Owners who had the Democrats in their Pockets

oh well during the schism yeah, was certainly more bureaucratically dischordant

firend of mine actually has family that has the written minutes of a CSA government meeting

I have a collection of letters from an entire Company and if I'm not mistaken I don't believe a single one talked about Slavery

but the fuckers refuse to submit it to a museum because they're soft fuckin northern poofs

And this company was made up of West NC/Virginia/Tennessee