Message from @Nathan James 123

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2019-11-03 19:11:33 UTC  

The fucking Cal-Fire prepardness brochure instructs people to keep handheld radios and scanners you hack.

2019-11-03 19:11:44 UTC  

It isnt in thos areas tho

2019-11-03 19:12:25 UTC  

You dont have wildfires and hundreds of thousands of square miles of rough terrain where you live so I wouldnt expect you to actually understand.

2019-11-03 19:13:04 UTC  

No I don't, just have an understanding of radio waves and technological change.

2019-11-03 19:13:17 UTC  

Evidently you dont

2019-11-03 19:14:51 UTC  

For cellular to work even just in the shasta area and provide the same coverage that HAM operators provide to emergency services (for free as covered in your own source) they would have to have a cell tower on every mountaintop and in every valley throughout the shasta, sisikyou, ashlands, and grants pass area

2019-11-03 19:15:01 UTC  

Cellular has a higher range compared to those low power HAM sets.

2019-11-03 19:15:01 UTC  

All of which comes at the direct expense of the state

2019-11-03 19:15:20 UTC  

Those arent low power HAM sets

2019-11-03 19:15:33 UTC  

What wattage are they running?

2019-11-03 19:15:39 UTC  

And frequency?

2019-11-03 19:15:41 UTC  

Those arent little radio sets in peoples garages

2019-11-03 19:15:56 UTC  

Radio frequencies is covered in the source you cited

2019-11-03 19:16:06 UTC  

Or did you not read your own citation <:pepelaugh:544857300179877898>

2019-11-03 19:19:09 UTC  

Moving on, your entire premise was "The whole issue is that the Californian government cannot keep paying the maintenance costs for these repeaters" which has been thoroughly and violently debunked by the citation YOU used. Now you have moved the goal post to "achktually its better if AT&T and Verizon get those sweet state dollars instead of continuing to use the infrastructure already in place thats free for us to use."

2019-11-03 19:19:41 UTC  

It doesn't show the wattage, so we have no range

2019-11-03 19:19:59 UTC  

Average range of your cell towers is 40 miles AND more people can use them..

2019-11-03 19:20:14 UTC  

40 miles

2019-11-03 19:20:22 UTC  

For that individual cell company

2019-11-03 19:21:00 UTC  

40 miles, of the hundreds of THOUSANDS of square miles that is the shasta, sisikyou, ashland, and grants pass area alone

2019-11-03 19:22:10 UTC  

Which are still going to have the same issues without the repeaters?

2019-11-03 19:22:57 UTC  

Because the repeaters in place are already there and provide sufficient coverage

2019-11-03 19:23:12 UTC  

The 40 miles was pulled from around town power, out in the sticks, it's going to be different

2019-11-03 19:23:33 UTC  

Repeaters which can be replaced with higher power cell towers? Enabling more access to the network?

2019-11-03 19:24:06 UTC  

The newer HAM radio towers can communicate with each other and satellites and have ranges of hundreds of miles

2019-11-03 19:24:25 UTC  

You have no argument

2019-11-03 19:24:31 UTC  

Quit while you are behind

2019-11-03 19:24:34 UTC  

Which we would need to replace to implement anyway..

2019-11-03 19:24:41 UTC  

No

2019-11-03 19:24:44 UTC  

So while we're at it, why not replace it with a more accessible system?

2019-11-03 19:24:49 UTC  

Which more people can use?

2019-11-03 19:24:52 UTC  

Which HAM radio operators have replaced themselves

2019-11-03 19:25:00 UTC  

Making it more cost effective?

2019-11-03 19:25:04 UTC  

And more effective overall?

2019-11-03 19:25:17 UTC  

But its not more cost effective

2019-11-03 19:25:33 UTC  

When comparing accessibility, yes it is.

2019-11-03 19:25:35 UTC  

That infrastructure is provided to the state for FREE

2019-11-03 19:25:41 UTC  

MORE people can access the system

2019-11-03 19:25:41 UTC  

I realize you are European

2019-11-03 19:25:43 UTC  

And use it.

2019-11-03 19:26:00 UTC  

> Many of these repeaters have been in public safety use for decades.
From the source as well