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Easy. No state "coffers' no headache
That said, the governing system of Rome was not fit for purpose, once Rome reached certain size.
I'd say Roman political thought was sophisticated enough to make the corruption unexcusable
What's not easy is to stop the human heart from 'naturally' levitating towards power in the absence of a happy childhood.
The governing system was unsustainable and Rome was doomed to fail sooner or later.
tbh the only empire that cam close to not being a corrupt mess was the British Empire
(unsustainable at that size)
Yeah Rome was over extended as hell
particularly in the west
I have a suspicion that looking at fall of Rome was one of the reasons for 2nd amendment.
i think thats a bit of a stetch imo
stretch
Could you explain?
The way the state/cohesion started falling apart once army professionalized.
The way the army/pretorian guard became the ultimate arbiter in later Rome.
That was largely due to state force being divorced from general populus.
hmm I'm gonna have to disagree I'd say they learnt the lesson that the military must be subject to the civil authority
not about an armed populace in general
Washington definitely understood the danger of a political military
If you read about fall of Rome, that's one of the lessons you should learn.
Yeah they definitely had way too much independent influence
especially as they started recruiting foreigners from outside the empire
You'd always get them coming down from Danube or Rhine down to Rome to install someone into power.
True
at the end of the empire the power was centred in the german border in the west
Trier i think it was
Whilst the east was getting beaten to hell and back by the Sassanids
Italy itself was not capable of defending against that, the people didn't have the capability and weren't trained (afaik in the times of the Republic, fathers had the obligation to train their sons to have some basic ability to fight in a Roman army)
yeah the med in general was demilitarised
The vandals managed to steal Africa with pretty much no resistance
but tbh I'm glad Rome fell, it was necessary really for Europe to advance
Will European Union fall?
No
Damn
The eu is anti democratic
No, since the power still lies with the people. We vote for MEPs whom are able to vote on legislation. We also, as states have a veto power on any legislation that we like.
The thing with the EU is that the people are dumb
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That is not true.
Qualified majority.