Message from @Dubdogelmo
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Could you explain?
The way the state/cohesion started falling apart once army professionalized.
The way the army/pretorian guard became the ultimate arbiter in later Rome.
That was largely due to state force being divorced from general populus.
hmm I'm gonna have to disagree I'd say they learnt the lesson that the military must be subject to the civil authority
not about an armed populace in general
Washington definitely understood the danger of a political military
If you read about fall of Rome, that's one of the lessons you should learn.
The military essentially seized power from about AD 100-200 onwards.
Yeah they definitely had way too much independent influence
especially as they started recruiting foreigners from outside the empire
You'd always get them coming down from Danube or Rhine down to Rome to install someone into power.
True
at the end of the empire the power was centred in the german border in the west
Trier i think it was
Whilst the east was getting beaten to hell and back by the Sassanids
Italy itself was not capable of defending against that, the people didn't have the capability and weren't trained (afaik in the times of the Republic, fathers had the obligation to train their sons to have some basic ability to fight in a Roman army)
yeah the med in general was demilitarised
The vandals managed to steal Africa with pretty much no resistance
Will European Union fall?
No
Damn
The eu is anti democratic
No, since the power still lies with the people. We vote for MEPs whom are able to vote on legislation. We also, as states have a veto power on any legislation that we like.
The thing with the EU is that the people are dumb
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That is not true.
Qualified majority.
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Sorry fossil fuel shills, it’s coming to an end
yay can't wait to be forced to walk or have to take incredibly crowded public transport
while rich elitist cunts are able to buy the newest electric car
or have my wallet raped by insanely high taxs
i mean just how wonderful it is to have the middle class erased by insanely high taxs and for the Globalist elite of a demonic cult to run everything
honestly Globalists that Run the EU and other organisations are demon spawn them selves
there fucking cultist
well at least we agree the middle class' chief adversary are the elites, before peasant immigrants
Peasants chief adversary is the low skilled immigrant