maybe just offended audience members flipping out

Yes they get tied up in semantics though. Sometimes hard to follow their back and forth

Like not the content but the purpose

between harris and peterson? i'd agree

it's hard to follow them and not for lack of comprehension

I can understand what they are saying but it’s hard to understand why they are going so deep on certain things like “what is truth”

For like an hour

douglas murray is mediating, which itself should be fun

@Anomie I've read the 12 rules for life and maps.

They need a mediator

yeah. before i go to the debate, i'll be re-listening to their previous talks

Moderator or whatever

ahh nice one ppf

we'll talk about maps as i'm reading it i guess

I'm currently reading dale carnegie

good book

is that the name of the book?

or is he one of the carnegies

The book is titled How to win friends and influence people

ahhh ye

by dale carnegie

that title keeps popping up for me

maybe i should get it at some point

good read so far

it's a book about influence, right?

kinda like the title suggests but not as basic

forget i ever made that false distinction

lol

Im in chapter 5 right now and so far the best way I can summarize this book is to do unto others as you would have them do unto you

alright cool. i'll keep it in mind for the future. but right now i'm stacked for books :-/ maps of meaning comes next, but i've got a to-read list longer than a leonard cohen song. it's so intimidating i almost don't want to do any of it

That one is good Ppf. The how to win friends. Have you read the four agreements?

no not yet jay is that another one of dale's books?

No I can’t remember the author but it’s a good one that aligns a lot with how to win friends

And also teaches a practical way to achieve perfect peace

Through “four agreements” with yourself. Always try your best, don’t make assumptions, be impeccable with your word, and don’t tale anything personal

that second one is tough. it's one that i struggle with. consciously, i can guarantee in certain situations i won't make assumptions, like with other people - i take them as a blank slate no matter what i might of heard or how they dress etc. common courtesy i reckon. but when we talk that blank slate starts to fill up with things; insights about whoever i'm talking with etc. i'm too hard on myself about how much of that is assumption, because i'm trying to steer clear for practical reasons but... assumptions are a tricky one

ppf, any thoughts on firing up them subreddits?

and are you affiliated with jesse and the show in any way?

Ppf runs this discord and moderates the superchat for the youtube. I’m sure he does things for bond as well.

And a bunch of other stuff I don’t know about yet lol

yeah. i suggested he open up some subreddits for jesse. /r/thefallenstate is still up for taking