Message from @ETBrooD

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2019-11-14 21:48:04 UTC  

low IQ is mostly about genes, but it's also about nutrition

2019-11-14 21:48:07 UTC  

And a few other things

2019-11-14 21:48:17 UTC  

The impact of nutrition is pretty huge

2019-11-14 21:49:00 UTC  

Also, better nutrition causes better genes

2019-11-14 21:49:05 UTC  

So we should keep Kim in charge otherwise the hyperintelligent north koreans will take over the world in by subversive means?

2019-11-14 21:49:20 UTC  

Perhaps <:Veemote:501103628883591188>

2019-11-14 21:49:24 UTC  

A better way to formulate Snake's argument would be that Mutational Load played a negative part in driving IQ scores, which might've been offset by the gains due to Flynn Effect

2019-11-14 21:49:32 UTC  

@ETBrooD They probably had genes that supported high IQ better in 1914, even if our superior nutrition makes us have superior IQ.

2019-11-14 21:49:41 UTC  

No, the genes didn't change at all

2019-11-14 21:49:42 UTC  

Imagine losing what we gained since 1914.

2019-11-14 21:50:01 UTC  

@ETBrooD Why? The poor have more babies? How cannot that change the genes?

2019-11-14 21:50:06 UTC  

omg

2019-11-14 21:50:14 UTC  

How is it possible, if you acknowledge inheritability of IQ?

2019-11-14 21:50:15 UTC  

Mutational Load did occur

2019-11-14 21:50:29 UTC  

Fuck your Mutational Load and Spiteful Mutants.

2019-11-14 21:50:30 UTC  

The poor today are far better nourished than the poor in the early 20th century

2019-11-14 21:50:38 UTC  

That belongs into Cyberpunk and Hokuto no Ken.

2019-11-14 21:50:41 UTC  

As a result they perform far better on IQ tests now

2019-11-14 21:51:02 UTC  

People back then were barely even able to think in the abstract

2019-11-14 21:51:18 UTC  

Besides the middle and upper class of course

2019-11-14 21:52:29 UTC  

So, is IQ inheritable or not? I really don't understand how you can hocus pocus away the fact that most intelligent people don't have the time to raise a family.

2019-11-14 21:52:38 UTC  

It's not a black and white argument

2019-11-14 21:52:42 UTC  

How can that not make high IQ a genetic dead end?

2019-11-14 21:52:47 UTC  

It is 50-80% heritable

2019-11-14 21:52:53 UTC  

I think even if these people got food it wouldn't fix that the majority of their populations are considered to have a mental disability

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2019-11-14 21:52:57 UTC  

IQ is largely heritable AND IQ can be raised a lot with better nutrition

2019-11-14 21:53:00 UTC  

Both is true

2019-11-14 21:53:35 UTC  

That's why it's so important that before any IQ testing is done, the health of the individual is also tested

2019-11-14 21:54:03 UTC  

Ok. And what does it do to the genetic component of IQ in population if high IQ individuals in each time period choose not to breed?

2019-11-14 21:54:05 UTC  

Otherwise the IQ test can't properly predict success because it doesn't know if it's the peak IQ or not

2019-11-14 21:54:13 UTC  

And the poor ones do breed with govt handouts?

2019-11-14 21:54:21 UTC  

Better nutrition causes better genes

2019-11-14 21:54:31 UTC  

**WHAT!!!?!?**

2019-11-14 21:54:35 UTC  

^

2019-11-14 21:54:36 UTC  

Causes better genes?

2019-11-14 21:54:39 UTC  

WHAT THE FUCK!

2019-11-14 21:54:42 UTC  

Is that news to you?

2019-11-14 21:54:55 UTC  

Better nutrition can cause high IQ from **SAME GENES**.

2019-11-14 21:55:10 UTC  

Did you hear what I said?