Message from @whiic

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2019-11-14 21:59:35 UTC  

It does change the cells, yes it does

2019-11-14 21:59:38 UTC  

Alcoholism is heritable

2019-11-14 22:00:02 UTC  

"Damaged gene pool due to bad nutrition" how is that same as fetal alcohol disorder?

2019-11-14 22:00:10 UTC  

Same exact cause

2019-11-14 22:00:16 UTC  

No it's not.

2019-11-14 22:00:19 UTC  

Yes it is

2019-11-14 22:00:31 UTC  

If you only eat ice cream during your lifetime

2019-11-14 22:00:32 UTC  

Inheritable genetic defects and developmental issues are different.

2019-11-14 22:00:34 UTC  

And you then have kids

2019-11-14 22:00:41 UTC  

Your kids are more likely to develop illnesses

2019-11-14 22:00:52 UTC  

Alcoholism is inheritable in two ways
1: you witness your parents drinking, which encourages you to (not genetic)
2: Your mother drinked in the whom, which essentially means you've already drank alcohol (again, not genetic)

2019-11-14 22:01:29 UTC  

There could also be some genes that make one more prone to addiction in general as a reason 3.

2019-11-14 22:01:36 UTC  

true

2019-11-14 22:01:43 UTC  

But that doesn't change whether mother drinks during pregnancy or not.

2019-11-14 22:01:55 UTC  

That gene would be inherited anyway, even if mother was sober but had it.

2019-11-14 22:02:15 UTC  

Provided the gene was not passed on due to recombination of chromosomes and the dad didn't have it.

2019-11-14 22:03:16 UTC  

Anyway, ETBrooD really doesn't understand differences between genotype and phenotype...

2019-11-14 22:03:25 UTC  

That paper just refuted you

2019-11-14 22:03:30 UTC  

Keep sperging

2019-11-14 22:03:53 UTC  

Heritability of alcohol use disorders (i.e alcoholism) is not same as fetal alcohol disorder.

2019-11-14 22:03:59 UTC  

not even that, I think he's confusing genes with epigenetics and hyping up the latter as more important than it is

2019-11-14 22:04:04 UTC  

Oh it's not the same

2019-11-14 22:04:12 UTC  

Therefore what I said about heritability of alcohol abuse is wrong?

2019-11-14 22:04:19 UTC  

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2019-11-14 22:04:48 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/633967335614447636/644659014071746570/unknown.png

2019-11-14 22:04:55 UTC  

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2019-11-14 22:05:04 UTC  

Doesn't disprove anything

2019-11-14 22:05:55 UTC  

@ETBrooD You really don't see a mistake you made during that screencap?

2019-11-14 22:06:04 UTC  

I'm sure you can explain it to me

2019-11-14 22:06:31 UTC  

I'm not too sure I can. There's limits to how low I can reach.

2019-11-14 22:06:40 UTC  

You can't, exactly right

2019-11-14 22:06:43 UTC  

Later on Whiic also said that a gene could be responsible as a third option, although that doesn't require the parent to be alcoholic and doesn't cause fetal alcohol syndrome

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/633967335614447636/644659502368423936/unknown.png

2019-11-14 22:06:45 UTC  

Because if you did, you'd disprove your own point

2019-11-14 22:06:55 UTC  

So you admit your level of education is super low?

2019-11-14 22:07:08 UTC  

That was my point. I cannot unretard a retard.

2019-11-14 22:07:18 UTC  

You're still wrong about heritability

2019-11-14 22:07:23 UTC  

Is there any twin studies on this?

2019-11-14 22:07:46 UTC  

@snake the paper I posted is from twin and adoption studies

2019-11-14 22:07:59 UTC  

I don't think you are actually low on education. You are just dumb. You probably have been taught how genes work, and you failed back then, when taught by a professional educator.

2019-11-14 22:08:06 UTC  

I think you lost the argument